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I'm new to loading for .45 Colt, and am curious if anyone has thoughts on N110 v. H110/W296. Consistency, metering, performance across the acceptable range of charges and bullet weights, etc.

Any and all thoughts appreciated. Thanks.
 

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Daryl,

N110 is an excellent choice for both the .44's and .45's!  Wherever H110/W296 is appropriate, so too is N110.  N110 has a lower flame temperature, and seems to be a bit more uniform in it's pressure curve when working up loads, meaning that it is easier to predict both pressures and velocities while doing those work-ups.

The data for the powders is NOT interchangable on a grain for grain basis.  However, if you use the starting loads for the H110/W296 as a baseline for N110 you are in safe territory.

We are awaiting some additional primer information from the folks at Vithouvouri, and then their entire latest edition loading manual will be live for your use on LoadSwap.com.  We are awaiting this information from overseas, and perhaps will make that resource available this week to all!

I really like N110, the problem is that distribution of the powder in some geographic areas is very limited at best, and the price is about 30% higher than H110/W296. However, in some applications I wouldn't mind the price, just for the very predictable and uniform performance!

God Bless,

Marshall
 

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John Taffin posted an article on loading the .45 Colt on his www.sixguns.com website. It isn't 100% related to N-110 but I do remember a few loads in there.

He cooked up one with an SSK bullet that was a real shooter.
 

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Daryl,
Here's some info from FA's load data. It's for the 454, but you can still use it to compare several of the common powders. From this you can see, as Marshall said,  that it's not a direct replacement for H110. But it does generate very good velocity with low pressures. Also N110 is that it can be downloaded by up to 15% of MAX (based on Vithavouri).  According to Hodgdon, H110 should not be loaded below 3% of MAX. I have there manual on order, but don't expect it for a couple of weeks. I could give you some better info then, if you're still looking. By the way, Vihtavouri is discontinuing the 8lb jugs of N110. Midsouth has a few left for &#3688.00.

                          Grs    Vel    C.U.P.    Grs    Vel      C.U.P.
FA240JHP H4227 29.0 1421  33,800  34.0  1815  41,400
FA240JHP H110   36.0 1889  44,700  39.0  2090  54,100
FA240JHP 2400   26.0 1639  38,000  30.0  1886  53,700
FA240JHP N110   27.0 1655  27,000  31.0  1877  48,040

FA260JFP H4227  28.0 1309  34,000  33.0  1759  46,000
FA260JFP H110    34.0 1790  44,600  37.0  2005  53,800
FA260JFP 2400    25.0 1538  35,000  29.0  1780  51,800
FA260JFP N110    26.0 1575  25,300  30.4  1816  48,820

FA300JFP H4227  27.0 1494  41,400  30.0  1634  53,700
FA300JFP H110    28.5 1589  44,400  31.5  1780  55,000
FA300JFP 2400    24.0 1461  42,000  27.0  1656  55,000
FA300JFP N110    24.0 1505  34,500  26.6  1634  49,380

God bless,
 

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Daryl and Southpaw,

I found it interesting that Vithavouri's web site doesn't give any data for N110 usage with either .45 Colt or .454.  

And the web site's min. loads for the .44mag. was only a 10% reduction and carried the warning:

"LOADS LESS THAN MINIMUM CHARGES SHOWN ARE NOT RECOMMENDED"

Dan
 

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DOK,
www.lapua.com/vihtavuori is where I found the info I posted. Nammo Lapua Oy is marketing and distributing Vihtavuori Reloading powders around the world. The load data itself, however, is supplied by Vithavouri.
Vithavouri classifies N110 as a rifle powder, not a pistol powder. Under rifle data, every load I checked used N110 and had the same caution using about a 15% reduction for a starting load.
They do have some load data for pistols using N110, but it seems to be only for magnum pistols (as far as I could tell), i.e. the 45 Winchester mag, the 44 mag, 357 mag, 357 maxim... again all with the same caution about 15% reduction for a starting load.
The load reduction, by the way, is not just for N110, but for all the powders listed for any particular caliber.
I read a post just today from someone who has used N110. His comments were that it meters well, burns clean and seem to be accurate and a little easier on the gun.


God bless,
 

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I sent a mail to Vihtavuori and asked for data to 454 and this is the data I received from Vihtavuori

300grs Bullet:
3N37 from 15,3 to 17grs
N105 from 19,8 to 23,1grs
N110 from 26,5 to 28,8grs

BigBore
 
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