N110 in .45 Colt
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Daryl,
N110 is an excellent choice for both the .44's and .45's! Wherever H110/W296 is appropriate, so too is N110. N110 has a lower flame temperature, and seems to be a bit more uniform in it's pressure curve when working up loads, meaning that it is easier to predict both pressures and velocities while doing those work-ups.
The data for the powders is NOT interchangable on a grain for grain basis. However, if you use the starting loads for the H110/W296 as a baseline for N110 you are in safe territory.
We are awaiting some additional primer information from the folks at Vithouvouri, and then their entire latest edition loading manual will be live for your use on LoadSwap.com. We are awaiting this information from overseas, and perhaps will make that resource available this week to all!
I really like N110, the problem is that distribution of the powder in some geographic areas is very limited at best, and the price is about 30% higher than H110/W296. However, in some applications I wouldn't mind the price, just for the very predictable and uniform performance!
God Bless,
Marshall
N110 is an excellent choice for both the .44's and .45's! Wherever H110/W296 is appropriate, so too is N110. N110 has a lower flame temperature, and seems to be a bit more uniform in it's pressure curve when working up loads, meaning that it is easier to predict both pressures and velocities while doing those work-ups.
The data for the powders is NOT interchangable on a grain for grain basis. However, if you use the starting loads for the H110/W296 as a baseline for N110 you are in safe territory.
We are awaiting some additional primer information from the folks at Vithouvouri, and then their entire latest edition loading manual will be live for your use on LoadSwap.com. We are awaiting this information from overseas, and perhaps will make that resource available this week to all!
I really like N110, the problem is that distribution of the powder in some geographic areas is very limited at best, and the price is about 30% higher than H110/W296. However, in some applications I wouldn't mind the price, just for the very predictable and uniform performance!
God Bless,
Marshall
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John Taffin posted an article on loading the .45 Colt on his www.sixguns.com website. It isn't 100% related to N-110 but I do remember a few loads in there.
He cooked up one with an SSK bullet that was a real shooter.
He cooked up one with an SSK bullet that was a real shooter.
Daryl,
Here's some info from FA's load data. It's for the 454, but you can still use it to compare several of the common powders. From this you can see, as Marshall said, that it's not a direct replacement for H110. But it does generate very good velocity with low pressures. Also N110 is that it can be downloaded by up to 15% of MAX (based on Vithavouri). According to Hodgdon, H110 should not be loaded below 3% of MAX. I have there manual on order, but don't expect it for a couple of weeks. I could give you some better info then, if you're still looking. By the way, Vihtavouri is discontinuing the 8lb jugs of N110. Midsouth has a few left for ๨.00.
Grs Vel C.U.P. Grs Vel C.U.P.
FA240JHP H4227 29.0 1421 33,800 34.0 1815 41,400
FA240JHP H110 36.0 1889 44,700 39.0 2090 54,100
FA240JHP 2400 26.0 1639 38,000 30.0 1886 53,700
FA240JHP N110 27.0 1655 27,000 31.0 1877 48,040
FA260JFP H4227 28.0 1309 34,000 33.0 1759 46,000
FA260JFP H110 34.0 1790 44,600 37.0 2005 53,800
FA260JFP 2400 25.0 1538 35,000 29.0 1780 51,800
FA260JFP N110 26.0 1575 25,300 30.4 1816 48,820
FA300JFP H4227 27.0 1494 41,400 30.0 1634 53,700
FA300JFP H110 28.5 1589 44,400 31.5 1780 55,000
FA300JFP 2400 24.0 1461 42,000 27.0 1656 55,000
FA300JFP N110 24.0 1505 34,500 26.6 1634 49,380
God bless,
Here's some info from FA's load data. It's for the 454, but you can still use it to compare several of the common powders. From this you can see, as Marshall said, that it's not a direct replacement for H110. But it does generate very good velocity with low pressures. Also N110 is that it can be downloaded by up to 15% of MAX (based on Vithavouri). According to Hodgdon, H110 should not be loaded below 3% of MAX. I have there manual on order, but don't expect it for a couple of weeks. I could give you some better info then, if you're still looking. By the way, Vihtavouri is discontinuing the 8lb jugs of N110. Midsouth has a few left for ๨.00.
Grs Vel C.U.P. Grs Vel C.U.P.
FA240JHP H4227 29.0 1421 33,800 34.0 1815 41,400
FA240JHP H110 36.0 1889 44,700 39.0 2090 54,100
FA240JHP 2400 26.0 1639 38,000 30.0 1886 53,700
FA240JHP N110 27.0 1655 27,000 31.0 1877 48,040
FA260JFP H4227 28.0 1309 34,000 33.0 1759 46,000
FA260JFP H110 34.0 1790 44,600 37.0 2005 53,800
FA260JFP 2400 25.0 1538 35,000 29.0 1780 51,800
FA260JFP N110 26.0 1575 25,300 30.4 1816 48,820
FA300JFP H4227 27.0 1494 41,400 30.0 1634 53,700
FA300JFP H110 28.5 1589 44,400 31.5 1780 55,000
FA300JFP 2400 24.0 1461 42,000 27.0 1656 55,000
FA300JFP N110 24.0 1505 34,500 26.6 1634 49,380
God bless,
Daryl and Southpaw,
I found it interesting that Vithavouri's web site doesn't give any data for N110 usage with either .45 Colt or .454.
And the web site's min. loads for the .44mag. was only a 10% reduction and carried the warning:
"LOADS LESS THAN MINIMUM CHARGES SHOWN ARE NOT RECOMMENDED"
Dan
I found it interesting that Vithavouri's web site doesn't give any data for N110 usage with either .45 Colt or .454.
And the web site's min. loads for the .44mag. was only a 10% reduction and carried the warning:
"LOADS LESS THAN MINIMUM CHARGES SHOWN ARE NOT RECOMMENDED"
Dan
DOK,
www.lapua.com/vihtavuori is where I found the info I posted. Nammo Lapua Oy is marketing and distributing Vihtavuori Reloading powders around the world. The load data itself, however, is supplied by Vithavouri.
Vithavouri classifies N110 as a rifle powder, not a pistol powder. Under rifle data, every load I checked used N110 and had the same caution using about a 15% reduction for a starting load.
They do have some load data for pistols using N110, but it seems to be only for magnum pistols (as far as I could tell), i.e. the 45 Winchester mag, the 44 mag, 357 mag, 357 maxim... again all with the same caution about 15% reduction for a starting load.
The load reduction, by the way, is not just for N110, but for all the powders listed for any particular caliber.
I read a post just today from someone who has used N110. His comments were that it meters well, burns clean and seem to be accurate and a little easier on the gun.
God bless,
www.lapua.com/vihtavuori is where I found the info I posted. Nammo Lapua Oy is marketing and distributing Vihtavuori Reloading powders around the world. The load data itself, however, is supplied by Vithavouri.
Vithavouri classifies N110 as a rifle powder, not a pistol powder. Under rifle data, every load I checked used N110 and had the same caution using about a 15% reduction for a starting load.
They do have some load data for pistols using N110, but it seems to be only for magnum pistols (as far as I could tell), i.e. the 45 Winchester mag, the 44 mag, 357 mag, 357 maxim... again all with the same caution about 15% reduction for a starting load.
The load reduction, by the way, is not just for N110, but for all the powders listed for any particular caliber.
I read a post just today from someone who has used N110. His comments were that it meters well, burns clean and seem to be accurate and a little easier on the gun.
God bless,
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