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Do any ammunition manufacturer make a cartridge for the 300 Remington SAUM that is non-toxic? Going on a Hog hunt in California in a few months and I believe non-toxic is required. Thanks for your help!

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I couldn't find any, but I believe you only need it in the Condor Zone.
 

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You could find a round loaded with a Barnes bullets, they are just solid pieces of copper.
 

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Thanks guys! This will really help. I did several Google searches but came up short. Do you all have any suggestions on what non-toxic and/or copper loads you prefer for the 300 R SAUM?

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I couldn't find any, but I believe you only need it in the Condor Zone.
Nope California is once again on the cutting edge of stupidity, so glad I got out when I did.

You have to use a non toxic round for any hunting in California.

Next they are going to require firing pins with serial numbers on the tip that stamp the cartridge as its fired as well as serial numbers on the ammunition, unless someone managed to shut that down.

I would also recommend the Barnes bullets, they do quite a number on game.
 

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i have had great luck with the barnes in both the tipped and regular tsx. recently i have been trying hornadys 139gr gmx in my 280 and getting great accuracy, havn't used it on game but i expect it will do just fine...
 

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I believe the microstamping has been abandoned since it has proved unreliable.

Winchester even has some all tin .22LR ammo for CA. I hear most people say its inaccurate at best.
 

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Thanks guys! This will really help. I did several Google searches but came up short. Do you all have any suggestions on what non-toxic and/or copper loads you prefer for the 300 R SAUM?

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I'd figure a 165gr load to be a pretty good all-around choice and would probably start there, myself. My 673/.300 shoots both factory 165s and 180s about the same. I actually found the same to be true with the Tkka .300WSM I used to own. Personally, I don't see a huge need/use for anything less than 165gr when you're shooting any .300 mag. Just my personal opinion.
 

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Thanks for the help! I'm looking at some ammo loaded with Barnes Tipped TSX, TSX, & MRX bullets. I haven't ever used "tipped" ammo, but have heard that some of this ammo is not good on thick skinned game (i.e. bears, elk, boars). Is that true...if so, what are your recommendations? MRX or TSX?

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I'd stick with the standard TSX on thick game. The Tipped stuff is for long range shooting.
 

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The above post about the condor zone was correct and i was wrong, just got of the phone with an old friend and you can hunt with toxic bullets when not in the condor zone, but as he described it the condor zone is most of the state.

Just wanted to get that corrected.
 

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If you use the proper tipped bullet it will work just fine on heavy game.The nonlead 22 rf ammo is accurate to about 25 yards and the accuracy drops off rather quickly.Probably due to the lighter weight of the bullet.They are rather destructive on rabbits so head shots are best with them.There's nothing wrong with Non lead bullets.I have used Barnes X-Bullets for years and have been impressed.I also used the Nosler E-Tip in my 6mm recently on a heavy South Dakota whitetail doe with fantastic results.The limited experience with the Hornady GMX would indicate rather quick expansion.I shoot a 300 SAUM also and reload my own.I use the Barnes TSX or Nosler E-Tip.If you look around there are some custom reloader that will load what you need.Check the Calif,Fish and Game website and they list a few.
 

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http://www.starsandstripesammo.com/

300 Remington SAUM 150gr TSX BT $48.99 3,301
168gr TSX BT $49.99 3,199 Refine Search | Search Again
http://www.customcartridge.com/ Line Description MV ME # / Box $ / Box Qty
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 130 TSX-BT 3400 3337 20 $65.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 168 TSX-BT 0 0 20 $68.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 200 TSX-FB 0 0 20 $70.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 150 TSX-BT 0 0 20 $66.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 165 TSX-BT 0 0 20 $67.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 180 TSX-BT 0 0 20 $69.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 140 MPG 0 0 20 $63.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 150 MRX-BT 0 0 20 $99.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 165 MRX-BT 0 0 20 $100.50
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 180 MRX-BT 0 0 20 $103.50
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 130 TTSX-BT 3400 3337 20 $69.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 150 TTSX-BT 0 0 20 $70.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 168 TTSX-BT 0 0 20 $71.00
Orion 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum
Barnes 180 TTSX-BT 0 0 20 $72.00


All it takes is a little searching.Amazes me how many will ask for info thats easily found with a websearch This was found on Calif F&G website.I'll bet there's more companies that load for 300 SAUM
 
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