[krazykeny]

Need Heaviest Jacketed subsonic .357
800 to 900 feet per second ?
180 grain, to 200 grain.
Full metal jacket, not round nose.
Or at least semi jacketed long flat nose, or soft nose.

 

[Bolt2bounce]

Look for the old 357 silhouette bullets not sure if they are made these days but I think they were about 160 gr FMJ Flat nose... B2B

 

[UnCruel]

Sierra has a 180gr "Full Profile Jacket"

 

[35Shooter]

Speer has 180 and 220 gr .358 dia Flat Nose rifle bullets.

Sean

 

[krazykeny]

I do not reload.
It is for a revolver.

 

[Bill M]

I don't know if anybody makes factory ammo with heavy bullets going that slow. It's getting down into the range where reloading manuals start warning about stuck bullets in some guns. Heavy for caliber, jacketed bullets going slow would be at a high risk for this. Most modern reloading manuals won't show reloading data for a 38 special with a jacketed bullet over 158gr for that and other reasons.

You can get around this with lighter jacketed bullets or by going with cast bullets though you'll still have trouble finding light loads over 158gr.

My guess (and it is a guess) is the closest you'll come to your needs is a 38 Special loaded with 158gr jacketed bullets. Good luck in your hunt.

 

[broom_jm]

Forgive me for asking the obvious question, but why would you want the load you are describing?

 

[krazykeny]

For use against Cars, while in a Car.
.357 snubnose

 

[John Kort]

VELOCITY is what penetrates steel. The weight of the bullet is secondary. You would be better off with a lighter bullet at higher velocity.

Back in the days of the .38 Special being used by police officers just such a load was developed.... the 38-44. Ballistics were a 158 gr metal capped bullet at almost 1,200 f.p.s.

BE AWARE that a lower velocity FMJ bullet that does not completely penetrate steel can come back to bite you!

Stay safe.
John

 

[ironhead7544]

Federal still makes a jacketed 357 Mag 180 gr load. Shows 1180 fps, that probably out of a long barrel. Sound speed varies but out of a snubby it should be subsonic. Wont be quiet.

 

[CoyoteJoe]

VELOCITY is what penetrates steel. The weight of the bullet is secondary. You would be better off with a lighter bullet at higher velocity.

Back in the days of the .38 Special being used by police officers just such a load was developed.... the 38-44. Ballistics were a 158 gr metal capped bullet at almost 1,200 f.p.s.

BE AWARE that a lower velocity FMJ bullet that does not completely penetrate steel can come back to bite you!

Stay safe.
John

Absolutely right. Lee Jurras, founder of super Vel ammo, demonstrated that very well back in the early 70's. Starting with the .38 special which most cops then carried, he loaded lighter 110 bullets at higher velocities and proved to police departments all over the country that his Super Vel ammo would penetrate auto bodies and glass much more effectively than the standard 158 grain loads.
I once shot up an old auto brake drum. A 45/70 with 385 grain cast bullets at about 1300 fps would knock the drum rolling but left only a grey smudge on the thick rim of the cast iron drum. A 55 grain .223 at 3000 fps would drill a perfectly clean hole in the first side and a more ragged hole out the other side. Even though the heavy bullet of the 45/70 had the greater energy it was high velocity which cut the steel. The .38 Super Auto was developed to give the Colt 1911 pistol a round more effective on auto bodies than the .45 ACP and it proved to be so.