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Need Heaviest Jacketed subsonic .357

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Need Heaviest Jacketed subsonic .357
800 to 900 feet per second ?
180 grain, to 200 grain.
Full metal jacket, not round nose.
Or at least semi jacketed long flat nose, or soft nose.
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VELOCITY is what penetrates steel. The weight of the bullet is secondary. You would be better off with a lighter bullet at higher velocity.

Back in the days of the .38 Special being used by police officers just such a load was developed.... the 38-44. Ballistics were a 158 gr metal capped bullet at almost 1,200 f.p.s.

BE AWARE that a lower velocity FMJ bullet that does not completely penetrate steel can come back to bite you!:eek:

Stay safe.
Absolutely right. Lee Jurras, founder of super Vel ammo, demonstrated that very well back in the early 70's. Starting with the .38 special which most cops then carried, he loaded lighter 110 bullets at higher velocities and proved to police departments all over the country that his Super Vel ammo would penetrate auto bodies and glass much more effectively than the standard 158 grain loads.
I once shot up an old auto brake drum. A 45/70 with 385 grain cast bullets at about 1300 fps would knock the drum rolling but left only a grey smudge on the thick rim of the cast iron drum. A 55 grain .223 at 3000 fps would drill a perfectly clean hole in the first side and a more ragged hole out the other side. Even though the heavy bullet of the 45/70 had the greater energy it was high velocity which cut the steel. The .38 Super Auto was developed to give the Colt 1911 pistol a round more effective on auto bodies than the .45 ACP and it proved to be so.
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