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I'm looking for little fur damage. Will probably never shoot past 200 yrds more probably 150 or under. I have three I'm leaning toward, Winchester white box 45gr jhp varmint, Hornady 55gr Vmax and the Russian made Brown Bear 62gr sp. I was thinking the 45 and 55 would be explosive on impact and might stay in the animals but I have no experience to know. Also was thinking the 62gr sp might just make a little hole in and a little bigger hole going out. All three shoot well enough and would like someone with experience shooting coyote with 223cal bullets to give me their opinions
Thank and sorry if this isn't the correct forum for this question. I'm still sort of new here.
 

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Is that a factory loaded round?

And jeees O peeets man that must have hurt like the dickens. What happen your bow explode?
 

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The very frangible bullets, VMax, TNT, BlitzKing, BT and most light, generic HP's, work the best when everything goes right. But you need a clean broadside, direct frontal or quartering away shot. These situations will offer you the best chance of a small entrance wound and internal bullet disintegration with no exit. You will sometimes experience an ugly, large exit wound with any of these bullets with a desired broadside shot scenario. When faced with a quartering towards or any other shot angle that brings the shoulder bone into play you have a good chance of an entrance splash wound. Even seen ribs cause splash entrance wounds.

I've found I get less chance of ugliness when using a more solid bullet. PSP's, Partitions, and solid copper bullets will have a much higher chance of an exit wound but less chance of it being explosive on either side of the yote.

Edit - Despite this, I use the Speer 52g HP bullet. It has splashed a couple of times on me, still fatal hits, but it just shoots very consistently and liquifies their internals.
 

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ive never shot a coyote with it, but black hills ammunition has a 36Gr varmint loading. it shoots excellent in my remington 700. i think they advertise very close to 4000FPS out of that loading.
 

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I guess I'll start off with the Remington 55gr PSP. If that doesn't give the desired effect
then I'll try one of the lighter more explosive bullets. My object is to collect some nice winter hides but that will be second to the thrill of calling in these wiley coyotes.
 

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Nothing like the thrill of one coming in is there, I'm 65 years old ,hunted all my life,still get "buck fever-coyote fever" as one comes in. My AR makes a mess out of them no matter what ammo I use. Pelts are only $7-10 here in southern Ohio,haven't sold any for 2 years.
Good luck on your calling in.
 

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I guess I'll start off with the Remington 55gr PSP. If that doesn't give the desired effect
then I'll try one of the lighter more explosive bullets. My object is to collect some nice winter hides but that will be second to the thrill of calling in these wiley coyotes.
I use the cheap 45grain Winchester white box of 50. Usually, one hole going in, nothing coming out.
You might try that one.
 

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Wow, three year old post. Redtail, I have been using a Savage 24 and not sure of the twist rate in these but a friend loaded up some Hornady V-max 55's and they shoot great. I like having the 20ga w/#4 buck for any that might come in close on the run. I haven't been able to go but a couple times a year and have only taken one. It was at about 50yd and stopped broadside and the bullet hit a rib and blew up inside. I didn't save the pelt as it was mid summer and it looked bad. Hoping to get out soon again.
 

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The Hornady v-max 55 is what a friend of mine uses and really likes them. Last one I shot was with my 7mag 162 gr Hornady, weren't going to save that hide.:eek:
 

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My favorite for 150 and under was the 22 mag. Shoot at the base of the ear and they drop like a rock. Only one small hole going in and no exit hole. Fur buyers loved getting my coyote's. I will be using 55gr fmj federals in my 5.56 AR. zeroed at 300 yards. Cheap ammo and can get in large quantities.
 

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Some things to consider are the twist on the barrel, and the likely distance you'll be shooting. Will foxes be coming in to the call also?

Coyotes rarely go with your plan, and sometimes show up quite close, or sit and watch the call source at 300yds. In between those two, they usually don't stop, and are constantly in motion more often than not. Open shots take the first shot consideration, shot angle is what you get.

I find that bullets that do the trick on predators most consistently, are in the heavy end of the weight range. in my 1:12 twist CZ527, 60gr Hornady SP's are tied with 63gr Sierra SMP's out to 200yds, past that the 63's groups tend to open up. I think they might be a tad long. In my 1:9 Ruger Predator, 65gr Sierra BTSP's are my bullet of choice for accuracy and economy. Both bullets from both rifles leave small holes on both sides at any angle, on coyotes and foxes.

I've hunted predators in NJ, NY, PA, and VA where I have family members . There are different theories in what works best, but over time, shooters with .222/.223 rifles have moved to heavier bullets. For a short time I used Sierra 40gr HP's, but up close, or when a fox shows up, some shots are gonna make a mess of the hide.
 

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I use 60 gr Hornady V-Max bullets for our coyote hunting, very accurate and deadly...
I've shot lot's of coyotes with these, they are very reliable, you will lose very few. I use H335 in my 16"AR and BLC-2 in my 24" 700 both with CCI magnum primers. Both guns shoot very good in sub-zero temperatures. I aim to hit a shoulder going in or on the offside when possible, 75% time there is a small hole going in and no exit.
Another advantage to these is they have very little wind drift.
 

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Now when a trapper friend of mine, was collecting fur, I used a lightweight bullet that would fragment inside and not give an exit hole. However one must be very careful not to drive that bullet to fast, nor do you want to strike the shoulder with your bullet. You don't want to end up with a 3 inch rose hole on the entry.;):)
 

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Have a Savage model 12 in .223 that shoots the 55 Vmax pretty good. It's a toss up whether they exit or stay inside. For mimimal fur damage need to go into the coyote quartering or lengthwise to avoid exit holes. They can blow up hitting a shoulder going in.

My AR likes Sierra 69 MKs. It's not a bullet I'd recommend if hunting for fur. The AR shoots Winchester 55 PSP fair and they let the steam out of coyotes and a bunch cheaper than match bullets.
 

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Go light and go fast. A 40 grain Vmax from my old worn out 788 in .223 (@ 3600 fps) won't exit a coyote at 150 yards and won't exit a fox at 200. I'm not saying it won't every time . . . . . . . .

RJ
 
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