Now I get it. Forums are a conversation. I'm truley sorry for not answering. 25+yrs as a field mechanic. No stranger to machinery, hard work, and an OOOP's aw s**t. Got 5 discs. retired early. Raised 2 kids, put them through college, no stranger to being broke. Fish and hunt for food. I've always beleived in kill it eat it. kdub, I'm a naturalized Okie.1974 one day in history the wind quit blowing. I landed here, went to work,met my wife of 32yrs and raised a family. Now with whats let of my wore out old body iget to spend time in this beautiful land where I live. BTW hte 410 is a squirel and wabbit gun, but some times the rats look more like feral hogs. O'Connersun Mid century is only halfway,right?