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NRA Endorses Donald Trump for President - ABC News

I can forsee this thread getting locked quickly if not kept light,,,, That said, I think they did the right thing.

He was a liitle weak on the assault weapons ban years back, but was still pro gun. I think when your rights are attacked, it has a tendency to strengthen your resolve. That and an endorsement like the nra cant hurt. He is now calling for gun free zones...
 

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It is not a problem to post the gun control positions of various candidates. In fact, it is better to educate gun owners before they pull the lever. It is pretty unfortunate that gun owners do not have a more solid pro-gun choice. But - when Hillary wants to abolish the 2nd amendment - what else can the NRA do?

“the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get.” - Hillary Clinton
https://soundcloud.com/washington-free-beacon/clinton-bashes-nra

And Clinton has a long record of supporting punitive gun control, such as a 25% tax on firearms purchases:

In 1993, the Clinton-chaired President's Task Force on National Health Care Reform contemplated a sin tax on firearms to offset the cost of her husband’s universal healthcare plan. At a Senate Finance Committee hearing on the health care proposal, Clinton endorsed a 25-percent tax on firearms suggested by Sen. Bill Bradley (D-N.J.), stating, “I'm all for that.”
... and has spoken out in favor of gun confiscation:

On October 16, 2015, while speaking before an audience in Keene, N.H., Clinton was asked, “Recently, Australia managed to get away, take away, tens of thousands, millions, of handguns. And in one year, they were all gone. Can we do that, and why if we can’t, why can’t we?”
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In 2000, while giving a speech at a Brady Campaign event during her first senatorial campaign, Clinton stated, “I'm the only candidate in this race who supports federal legislation to license handgun owners and register handguns.” Earlier that year, Clinton described her gun control agenda at the Newspaper Association of America's Annual Convention. This included licensing of all handgun owners, a national registry of all handguns sales or transfers, a national ballistics fingerprinting database, a ban on affordable handguns, handgun rationing, and granting the Consumer Product Safety Commission the power to regulate firearms.
Sadly, Clinton would like to allow baseless lawsuits against firearms manufacturers. It is so bad that even Bernie Sanders recognized it would end firearms manufacturing in the U.S.:

In 2004, Clinton took to the Senate floor to oppose the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, which protects firearm manufacturers and dealers from liability arising from the unlawful actions of a third party. On March 6, after having been repeatedly attacked by Clinton for not opposing the PLCAA, Clinton’s opponent for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), said of her position, “what you're really talking about is people saying let’s end gun manufacturing in America. That’s the implications of that. And I don't agree with that.”
So yeah, it is not too surprising that the NRA has endorsed Trump. Ideal? Hardly. A better position on firearms ownership and the right to self defense than Hillary? It would be difficult to imagine a worse position on firearms ownership than Clinton's.

Sadly, a large number of gun owners will stick their heads in the sand and rationalize that Hillary "isn't that bad" on gun control, and vote away their 2nd amendment rights, in complete denial of her long public record of supporting draconian gun control.

Note: discussion of issues other than 2nd amendment, gun ownership, right to self-defense, and / or hunting are not appropriate for the forum. Keep comments related to candidate's positions on such, or individual posts may be deleted, and/or the thread locked.
 

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I don't think anyone who pays attention thinks that Secretary Clinton "isn't that bad" on gun control. I think that people who listen to her and then listen to Trump are willing to rely on the checks and balances imposed on the Presidency rather than allow Trump anywhere near the White House except as a tourist, particularly in view of the fact that Trump is, at best, a seasonal supporter of the 2nd Amendment. We don't gain anything regarding the 2nd Amendment by electing Trump, and we lose enormous amounts of civil rights and basic rationality with such a vote.
 

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I think that people who listen to her and then listen to Trump are willing to rely on the checks and balances imposed on the Presidency ....
Unfortunately, I think you are correct on this point,,,, eh well to be more specific, a lot of people, not all people. Some people are emotional, irrational thinkers who let their hearts rule there heads. They will ignore the fact that this election will swing the balance of the supreme court (provided a justice is not confirmed before then). They will conveniently forget how Obama used taxation as an argument and means to impose obamacare, and they will altogether gullibly believe that hillary will not try and likely succeed using the same tactic. Why? Because they think that just because they want something to be a certain way, that is how it is.

As mike g said, they will stick their heads in the sand.

The way I see it, he's no poster child for the republicans or gun owners. He has however, always been at least moderately pro gun, claims to have a license to carry, and is not threatening to circumvent the 2nd.

It has become blatantly obvious that those who want the second ammendment to fall, want the first to fall as well. After all, they are the ones protesting his right to speak simply because they dont like what he has to say. I havent seen a bunch of protestors at hillary's events in the news, and its not because we like what she has to say.
 
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During the South Dakota state elections I was upset NRA backed the incumbent instead of her challenger who had an A+ rating. According to NRA when I asked them why, the answer was they supported the pro gun candidate most likely to win.

Probably the case with Trump.
 

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The endorsement is pretty simple: who will appoint the best judges to the Supreme Court. The answer is obvious and everyone who supports the 2nd Amendment should realize it. Good job, NRA.

To suggest Billary should even be considered much less picked because there are checks on her is beyond absurd. The "checks" haven't stopped the current tyrant, why would we expect them to stop the next one? We already know the answer.
 

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looking strictly at the 2nd Amendment issue. Clinton is the worst candidate possible this election. She has a definite agenda to reduce or if possible abolish the 2nd Amendment.
Trump really isn't interested in it. He'd not push anything negative on his own but he wouldn't try to overtly support it either unless it gave him political leverage. Trump is simply a user of power and people, so he won't be an issue to gun rights unless he sees some advantage in it.
The NRA is as has been mentioned ,just picking the least offensive candidate. This year it's just "Duck and Cover" !!!!
 

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The lesser of two evils. Politics is the business of compromise. I, for one, will not sulk in a corner over the NRA's choice. I will be voting conservative on election day. To do otherwise is a vote for the opposition.
 

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Joe, your post was deleted by kdub (right as I was editing it). Please keep the non-gun political statements off the forum.

Trump has a concealed carry license? That would be interesting. A polar opposite of Hillary, who has spoken out against lawful concealed carry.

Those who think the president "can't hurt the 2nd amendment" are somewhat ignorant of the role of the president in nominating supreme court justices. Just sayin'......
 

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So Trump has so much support that he has set records in voting. To say he is popular is an understatement. My point in saying this is that so far, his support here seems Luke warm even after our favorite gun advocacy group has endorsed him. I'm not taking anyone to task, just an observation. I'm wondering if there is a reluctance to come out strongly for him in this group, or if this group is in fact really that ambivalent about him. This discussion is unlike any other I have seen about the coming election.
 
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Quite possibily president Trump will...

be trying to correct the objectionable actions the businessman Trump had to make to navigate a system that he feels he has the insight to bring back to a more correct format, for instance why it's more important to learn how to protect yourself than how to "stand-in-line".
 

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I listened to Trump's address to the NRA-ILA gathering via Cable and OANN coverage. I Think I heard Trump say he had a Concealed Carry Permit but was not Presently 'carrying' as he Has Secret service Protection.
I was planning to support the eventual Republican candidate and this NRA Endorsement makes it a Bunch More Comfortable for me.

Now to find out Who is the Better Candidates in in the California US Senate Race, the California 39th Assembly district (ALL Democrats !) and other Primary races her in my Voting precinct. so far I have been Inundated with election flyers touting each one but no tone has indicated any stance on my Interests.

Perhaps I am Hoping for a fantasy.

Best Regards,
Chev. William
 

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Some are leaving out that this is still a three way contest. The NRA needed to decide between: a reality show host, a socialist, and a liar (that is not very good at it).

Given those choices, I would come to the same conclusion if my goal was to protect the 2nd amendment of the constitution of the USA. And it is!

Cheezywan
 

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nvshooter - your post #18 has absolutely nothing to do with this thread topic.
 

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Had the impression his sons hunt African big game. The alternative Republican planned to privatize federal public land.
 
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