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To echo ID and the Chief About the 165's. I use the Hornaday 165's to do the job. Plenty enough bullet for whitetail, and I load the 165 in .308.
Hand loading the 165 Hornaday on top of 42.5 grains of IMR 4064 for the .308 gives me about 2550fps that travels relatively flat and won't deflect in the NE hardwoods.


Chief: those SST's work really well, took a 4 pointer about 2 years ago with them.
 
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