My point was.
Gentlemen seems my thread has stirred up a hornets nest.
To Broom_JM. I am not offended, rather complimented, for me mathematics can solve any problem how else did America put a man on the moon.
To jwp475 I did not say a 45 auto would not stop a cougar, I said could not be relied on. I am British (Scottish) I have fired .303/.308/7.92 military weapons at an army organised shoot. The only pistol I fired was a Remington 44 cap and ball revolver.
A pistol is a back up weapon for someone like a radio man whose main job is communication, killing the enemy is usually done by others in a platoon. As a back up to any hunting rifle the 45 auto would be high on my list of possible choices.
To the others who made replies: The point of this thread was to offer a stopping power formula which would model reality, i.e. what actually happens when Game (or people are hit by bullets) different weapons can then be rated and chosen for the job in hand. I did not mean to start an argument on how good a deer rifle the 223 Remington is. As broom_jw says the rounds I chose to compare were military rounds, they were chosen because these weapons have a reputation for stopping power or the lack of it.
I have followed the thread and been surprised to read that the 223 was chosen as a weapon to wound our enemies, not kill them. American Indians were I think rather good at killing their enemies, even if to prove their bravery they would sometimes hit an enemy with a coup (coo) stick. Are we to go the same way? I always thought one reason the 223 was chosen to allow the soldier to carry twice the number of rounds.
To mikeG I have some thoughts (ideas) on the right bullet but feel I would be better to start a new thread.
Gentlemen seems my thread has stirred up a hornets nest.
To Broom_JM. I am not offended, rather complimented, for me mathematics can solve any problem how else did America put a man on the moon.
To jwp475 I did not say a 45 auto would not stop a cougar, I said could not be relied on. I am British (Scottish) I have fired .303/.308/7.92 military weapons at an army organised shoot. The only pistol I fired was a Remington 44 cap and ball revolver.
A pistol is a back up weapon for someone like a radio man whose main job is communication, killing the enemy is usually done by others in a platoon. As a back up to any hunting rifle the 45 auto would be high on my list of possible choices.
To the others who made replies: The point of this thread was to offer a stopping power formula which would model reality, i.e. what actually happens when Game (or people are hit by bullets) different weapons can then be rated and chosen for the job in hand. I did not mean to start an argument on how good a deer rifle the 223 Remington is. As broom_jw says the rounds I chose to compare were military rounds, they were chosen because these weapons have a reputation for stopping power or the lack of it.
I have followed the thread and been surprised to read that the 223 was chosen as a weapon to wound our enemies, not kill them. American Indians were I think rather good at killing their enemies, even if to prove their bravery they would sometimes hit an enemy with a coup (coo) stick. Are we to go the same way? I always thought one reason the 223 was chosen to allow the soldier to carry twice the number of rounds.
To mikeG I have some thoughts (ideas) on the right bullet but feel I would be better to start a new thread.