[suede]

Ok so heres the deal, year or so ago, i had built up a pretty nice Rem 700 .270, loved the gun and the caliber, but it got stolen, and never to be seen again... Lately i been shooting my fathers 300 win mag, but ammo is spendy and it is way overkill for some coyotes and a couple deer a year IMO....



So basically I'm going to be starting from ground zero, and heres kinda my plan... critique at will.... but i want to be able to reach out to around that 500 yard mark or possibly a touch more, (for those shots, we have the equipment to reload and i plan on doing so), I want to stay with a .270 (really like the caliber and still have a ton of ammo left from previous gun) and im not real worried about shooter skill, (killed a coyote with mange at 320, standing on the steps of a tractor free armed)


Savage trigger/action (for the accutrigger, and barrel nut system, was told there is a large barrel aftermarket for them?)

Barrel-stock for now till i learn some more about twist rates and such

Boyds thumbhole stock- Requirement... i have a love for thumbhole stocks, just feels better, but open to other brand suggestions, will also be glassbedded

8-24x40(or 50?) scope, with drop turrets...



alright..... have at it...

 

[mattsbox99]

Too much scope and why do you need a quick change barrel if you only shoot the .270?

Any major manufacturer will build you a nice rifle, the Marlins are an excellent price right now and they seem pretty popular. I'd just buy American (Ruger, Remington, Savage, Marlin).

 

[suede]

as far as the scope, i had a 6-18 on my last one, and it was ok and all, but i left it on probably 16 or so and wasnt shooting much past 350, i just like to really be able to see what im shooting at...


as for the barrel, i was thinking of upgrading it to a little heavier barrel with more twist to it for longer shots, over the smaller barrels that come with say a base model savage i would be picking up to obtain the action

 

[kdub]

Can't give much advice on the chambering, but would suggest the larger objective on the 24x scope. Getting up in the higher power range, the scope starts getting kinda dark looking with the smaller bells.

 

[suede]

thats kinda what i figgured with the scope, but wasnt real sure,


also someone had suggested me to get a barrel with an adjustable muzzle break, not because of recoil, but because it can bring in a group size? i thought they were purely for recoil reduction...

 

[mattsbox99]

I guess I learned how to shoot with iron sights and a fixed 10x scope, plain barrels and plain stocks. Everything else just makes it too easy.

 

[Skyler]

What's your price range for the rifle? For the optic? Also if you reload take a look at the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x47 Lapua, .243 Ackley Improved and Im sure I'm missing something in this mix.

 

[gene]

If I was in this stuation I would get the .270 barrel Ifigured I would use the most and then build on that. a .25-06 barrel(or 6mm Rem.) with a heavy varmint barrel and later a .35 Whelen (or .338-06) with a sporter weight barrel.

The Savage barrels are not terribly difficult to change and a rig like this will hunt any thing on the North American Continent without being over or under gunned.

I agree with Mattsbox99 about being overscoped, but I am guessing you know what you want and need for your hunting conditions better than I do.

Just my suggestions.

Regards
Gene

 

[broom_jm]

Sounds to me like you have it all figured out. You've got the action, caliber, stock, and scope picked out, so what was your question, exactly?

 

[tpv]

Can't argue with the caliber, its my favorite, even though KDUB never heard of the 270 Win.
Take a look at the Browning thumbhole rifles. They are pretty, and might cost about the same as buying the Savage and a Boyd stock, don't know for sure.
That is a lot of scope for hunting, and Ken's right, early and late, those big scopes shut the door on light. I like a 4.5-14 44 mm scope. Gathers alot of light. My Ziess scope are the perfect scope for me.
But go to Eabco and look at the Swift. They make a 44 millimeter that costs a lot less but also gathers light very well. I have hunted with about everything out there and for the price, I think you would like it.
You really can't go wrong, you're getting a new rifle!

 

[jwp475]

Purchase the highest qualtiy optic that your budget will allow. I'll take clarity and resolution over power any day.

 

[big dan]

take the advice that you just got from jwp to heart!!

 

[Huntdaddy1]

Take a real hard look at the new Marlin bolt Gun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure someone will be building aftermarket stocks for it, if they're not already. GREAT gun for the money !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HD1

 

[suede]

I guess I learned how to shoot with iron sights and a fixed 10x scope, plain barrels and plain stocks. Everything else just makes it too easy.

I did too, my first gun was a singe shot one shot .22lr, you pulled the pin back and everything, teaches a guy to make the first shot count, since then, my hills deer last year going old school with my fathers 30/30 that was handed down to me at 214 yds, open sights, I have since started picking up on bow hunting, but im really wanting to get into long range coyote hunting, which is where this gun comes in....

this is it after i refinished it and tucked it away....

Take a real hard look at the new Marlin bolt Gun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure someone will be building aftermarket stocks for it, if they're not already. GREAT gun for the money !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HD1

Ill haveto take a look at these here fore too long, the brownings included, but i couldnt find anyone who made a thumbhole stock in a .270 caliber.....


But to clarify some other things...

Im staying with the .270 caliber, but the reason i threw out savage as my action option was for an upgraded barrel, not to change calibers, but just to go from a simple standard barrel, to say a touch longer bull barrel

as far as price ranges, im expecting 400 for the savage, 140 for the stock, bedding im not sure how much it runs these days, nor the price of a barrel, but the barrel is not a high priortity at the moment, and id like to keep this under 1400 total

 

[mattsbox99]

Nice .22! I have a few Remington single shot bolts that I have refinished and plan to give to my nephews when they get to that age.


Coyotes rarely give a shot at long range, they are always bouncing. I shoot a lot of them every year and I call the vast majority into 25-50 yards, my longest shots even in the open prairie are 100 yards.

 

[suede]

Nice .22! I have a few Remington single shot bolts that I have refinished and plan to give to my nephews when they get to that age.


Coyotes rarely give a shot at long range, they are always bouncing. I shoot a lot of them every year and I call the vast majority into 25-50 yards, my longest shots even in the open prairie are 100 yards.

Idk, they can be called in for sure, but after a first shot even, they will run for a bit if they are not sure where you are at and usually stop and turn to give you a second shot on them, after that, its "if you can see them they are in range"

 

[L-Ray]

Here is the current Browning thumbhole offering in 270

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=001B&cat_id=035&type_id=005

 

[Skyler]

If you can deal with, in my opinion, a crappy stock take a look at the Remington 700 series of rifles, particularly the SPS (what ever is the cheapest) they usual go for 500-600 where I'm at. Then take and spend every penny you have left on the best optic, rings, base as you can. The M700s are generaly pretty well off out of the box with a quick bed job about all that's require to make them preform decently. If your the handy man type of guy you can use a dremel tool and steel/aluminum rods combined with epoxy to stiffen the forend of the stock so it won't flex under pressure.

Another route to go is do some research on an optimal length/twist rate for the bullet you want to use. Once that's done by the cheapest M700 or Savage action you can. Go to Pacnor, Krieger, Bartlien, Rock or Shilen (there are others I'm sure) and get the correct barrel for your needs. Then pick your poison for a stock and buy as much optic as you can. The action should be 100-150, barrels will go from 300-600. If you get your action trued that's another 150 or so. That's 900 without a stock if everything is the high end in exspense. You can find used stocks all over the web so you can keep costs down as well in that department. If you get a nice stock to go along with your barrel and action you'll have a rifle that costs what a factory rifle costs but with much greater potential for accuracy.

The 8-24 scope is a bit much, a 4-16 with a 50mm or so abjective is a good balance of magnification and size. If the objective size doesn't bother you then go 56mm for the extra light gathering.

If you want to stay in the .270 cal range then take a look at the .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby, both fly a bit flatter.

 

[suede]

If you can deal with, in my opinion, a crappy stock take a look at the Remington 700 series of rifles, particularly the SPS (what ever is the cheapest) they usual go for 500-600 where I'm at. Then take and spend every penny you have left on the best optic, rings, base as you can. The M700s are generaly pretty well off out of the box with a quick bed job about all that's require to make them preform decently. If your the handy man type of guy you can use a dremel tool and steel/aluminum rods combined with epoxy to stiffen the forend of the stock so it won't flex under pressure.

Another route to go is do some research on an optimal length/twist rate for the bullet you want to use. Once that's done by the cheapest M700 or Savage action you can. Go to Pacnor, Krieger, Bartlien, Rock or Shilen (there are others I'm sure) and get the correct barrel for your needs. Then pick your poison for a stock and buy as much optic as you can. The action should be 100-150, barrels will go from 300-600. If you get your action trued that's another 150 or so. That's 900 without a stock if everything is the high end in exspense. You can find used stocks all over the web so you can keep costs down as well in that department. If you get a nice stock to go along with your barrel and action you'll have a rifle that costs what a factory rifle costs but with much greater potential for accuracy.

The 8-24 scope is a bit much, a 4-16 with a 50mm or so abjective is a good balance of magnification and size. If the objective size doesn't bother you then go 56mm for the extra light gathering.

If you want to stay in the .270 cal range then take a look at the .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby, both fly a bit flatter.

I'm with you on your second idea, i just didnt really know where i could find a used savage action for sale, and i just returned to my dads house for christmas, and realize i didnt have as much leftover 270 ammo as i thought i did, so the option of a WSM i am highly considering but is there much difference trajectory wise with the WSM?


also any one have any advice on twist rates for either of these calibers? Im thinking i will be going with a 22'' barrel unless i am persuaded in some other way

 

[jwp475]

The difference in trajectory is not a big deal IMHO a 270 is easier and cheaper to get ammo for. A 1 in 10 twist is perfect for the 277 caliber.

In your opening post you stated that you were getting a scope with turrets, since trajectory is a know quantity and is easily compenstated for. I'd not let trajectory make my decision.