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Sept 1973 Rob and I were out shooting our Winchester Model 100 308 semi autos. We had the mags installed but not loaded, just drop a round in and release the bolt.

Rob had just did one and all kinds of crap was flying thru the air.

I picked up over 134 pieces of wood and metal parts.



I now had a fear of shooting the model 100 I had so sat about getting rid of it. I went to many a gun shop with the Idea of coming home with a bolt action rifle capable of killing white tail deer and not loose my shirt in the deal.



After about two weeks I found a shop willing to do a nearly equal trade. The Rifle I had was a Winchester Model 100 nice wood very little worn blueing and a Tasco scope 3x9.

Gun shop gun was a Remington model 700 bolt action 243, nice wood and no wear of blueing at all. It had no scope but that could be added later.

Dealer said for me to take the rifle and two boxes of shells home and shot it some to see how I liked it.

I do not remember the ammo bullet weight today, but shooting water bottles pumpkins and other things that blew up I was impressed and did the trade. Dealer and I became friends with that trade.



Fellow I worked with sold cameras, scopes and other glass on the side. I bought a Bushnell 3x9 with BDC rings and rails off him.

The dealer I made the trade with also hunted with a 243 so he recommended a load for deer. Regular rifle primers, IMR 4350 Powder and 100 gr. Round nose bullets.

I loaded up a batch and they seemed to do a good job killing pumpkins so I saved a few for deer season.



I found out deer are not pumpkins and the first deer I shot I tracked drops yes drops of blood nearly 300 yards to find the dead deer. I became unimpressed with the 243 for deer, went and ordered a brand new Remington 700 in 308 since I still had ammo left.

I bought another Bushnell. 3x9 BDC scope look thru mounts and rails from the guy at work. That became my deer rifle the 3d rifle I now owned.

Thanks giving day We were out hunting, we were my self, brother and new brother in law. It was close to dinner time so were headed up to Robs jeep and go home for Turkey and foot ball. A doe came by us and didn’t look right, then we saw the neighbor guy, a hypocrite. Said to us why didn’t you shoot the deer, because it was a doe, your so anti doe hunting why are you trailing her. I thought she was a buck and shot her so she is wounded. Told us he was done chasing her now that he knew she was a doe.



We went on home and had dinner but no foot ball. We went back and started tracking that doe. Tracked her a long way finally jumping her once but could not get a shot off.

The neighbors son caught up with us. We jumped the deer again and the kid shot the deer, bang flop she is down.

I asked what he was using, said a Savage something in 243 hand loaded 85 gr. Bullet.

That stuck with me.



Nearly a year later I had a accident and had some bad head trauma so the doctor at work would not allow me to work for a while.

This was during labor day week, every one else working so I decided to play with different loadings for the 243 all 85gr bullets.

Settled on the 85gr Serra HPBT bullets over top of IMR 4350 powder.

You did not have to mash potatoes just shoot them with that round.



Finally Robs settlement with Winchester was finished and he could not only get a pocket full of cash but any rifle they made. He got a Winchester model 70 bolt action in 243 4x12 red field scope.

He also used the same recipe for his hand loads of course we lived together so one of use was always loading some thing shoot shells, rifles or pistols.



My hunting partner Rick also bought a Savage rifle in 243 and use the same round. He got the package deal scope which turned out to not be much. We were shooting a lot of crows then.



I bought my dad a Rugar 77 tang safety rifle in 243 3x10 Simmons scope so on a week end we would get together to shoot for fun. So there we are 4 guys with 4 different brands of rifles scopes and shoot into our hill side where we put targets all different types cause the water filled stuff went quick.



Soon Rob and Rick would get to betting on who could hit the closest to dead center of a milk jug cap or shoot a water bottles cap off with out hurting the bottle.



I have no idea how many crows we shot with the 243’s, deer, wood chucks, Rick shot a bear in Canada with his.

Rob and I shot a lot of snow shoe hare in March near the end of the season with ours.

We love our pea shooters.



I still have my Remington, Dads Rugar too. One ofRicks grand sons got his when he passed and Robs daughter got his before he passed.



I have no Idea who will get mine when I am gone. My son doesn’t hunt nor is his son interested either. My daughters son isn’t interested either.

So If I do not find any one before my time is up Kare will do with them as she wishes.



Remington 700 308.







Remington 700 243,
 

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My older brother has asked me why I keep all of Dad's guns around instead of getting rid of them or just giving them away to everyone else. My brothers and sister (quite a bit older) were not around much when Dad and I were getting into shooting in the 80's. Pretty much every one of his guns holds many great memories much like the ones you shared above. To the rest they would just be a gun with some $ value. To me, the are memories of my Dad and don't have a price. My boys are taking an interest (21 and 9) and I do my best to share my stories with them. Hopefully they will look at them the same way I do.

Thanks for the stories.
 

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Dads Rugar holds not only the fact it was dads rifle and he did things with it he never did with his model 88 Winchester 284 or his Winchester 94 30-30.
Dad shot a lot of crows with it and a bunch of wood chucks.

Dad decided he had done enough hunting and fishing and set up a March date to turn over all his hunting and fishing stuff to his kids and grandkids.

I got two guns both I had bought for him the Rugar and a ithaca 37 feather weight model 37 20 ga.

That year I took his Rugar up to deer camp to hunt with As far as I knew dad had never shot a buck with the Rugar. the second to the last day of the season I shot a 6 point buck with it. Wrote a story that got published in the (if I remember right) December 2004 issue Michigan out of doors magizine.

So now it is extra special.

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Back in 1962 my first new rifle was a Sako in 243. shot great, and it killed a lot of small varmints, but never a deer, never had a chance. I still have that rifle. Made one of my better shots with it, groundhog at 551 yards (measured).
 

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i had several 243 and each one of them comes with a bad memory. it didn't matter if i shot a deer in the shoulder or right behind the shoulder, the deer ran about 100-125 yards and one was 250+ yards later. the blood trail on all of them was non-existent. my tracking skills were so-so at the time, but after that it was excellent. i guess that 243 wasn't for thick brush, so i chose another caliber, the 7x57 and the 7-08 and my 100+ yard juants are no more. this was 25+ years ago and i don't have a .243 caliber. i know that i can use premium bullets, but why bother. i don't think that the expense justify it. note that i am a old cup - core bullet-ter. ;)

i have shot deer with the 25 caliber up to 458 caliber(i still have to kill a deer with .510 caliber or 500 linebaugh). and in every case, the deer either DRT or it goes under 40 yards. i'm not trying to fill up the grave of the 243, my best friend has a rem m788 in 243 and he luves it. a woman i know(that is friend) uses a savage in 243. they kill alot of deer with it.

i would like my dad's rem m760 in '06, mossberg m500 in 12ga, tc hawkins flintlock in 50 cal(that he built) and the old 30 carbine that my grandfather(RIP) brought home from WW2. they each hold hunting memories for me(except the 30 carbine). he has other guns, but i'll always see him hunting from a 12 years old eyes(me).
 

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Years ago, I found a Remington slide action rifle in .243 for a very good price. Condition was "like new." A Simmons 2.8x-10x scope was mounted and I tried out a few different ammo brands for accuracy at 200 yards. Black Hills Ammo was the consistent winner featuring a 95 grain bullet. Since then, this rifle has taken many pronghorn antelope and a few mulies for me. .243 is a keeper!

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Great story Alleyyooper, I am not a fan of the heavier bullets in .243 Winchester. ( 100+ grains ), I've used the same 85 gr. Sierra HPBT loaded with IMR 4064 to 2,900 fps. Never lost a deer to it yet. Also, my son, brother in law, nephew, and two family friends use the same load. I shoot a Savage 111, son shoots a Remington 783, brother in law's is Ruger 77, nephew is N.E.F. single shot, and the two friends shoot Browning and another Savage 110. All of these rifles shoot nickels to quarter size groups at 200 yards. Brother in law was not happy with 2,900 fps so he started using Varget and pushes the 85 grain bullet to max velocity ( 3,300 fps ) I told him that the target would be just as dead at 2,900 as it would be at 3,000 fps. But he said he wanted flatter trajectory.
 
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