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Hello again. a little wile ago i posted a thread on muzzle breaks vs flash surpressors. again, living in NJ we have post ban rules so i was hoping someone could tell me how to permanently attach a muzzle break?. thanks
 

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There is also a way to pin a barrel extension/brake onto a barrel in such a way that it meets the legal definition.
 

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Stud'n'bearing grade Loc-Tite? It might be wise to run all of these suggestions past the local ATF office to see if they have anything to say.

"Permanent" is a relative term; even silver solder can be taken apart with a torch. Nothing is truly permanent if you have a hacksaw, anyway, but I'd get the opinions of the people who enforce the laws.

Let us know if you hear anything specific.
 

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ATF says high temp silver braze or welded.
 

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Check your state law. It may prohibit threaded barrels regardless of whether the threads have been soldered or welded over. The standard ban procedure was to turn off the threads, and then press, pin and solder the brake.
 

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" DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
Washington, D.C. 20226



Dear Mr. :

This refers to your letter of March 31, 1998, in which you ask
about permanently attaching a muzzle device to various firearms.

A muzzle device, such as a muzzle brake or BARREL EXTENSION, which
is attached to a barrel by means of welding or high temperature
silver solder having a melting point of at least 1,100 degrees
Fahrenheit, is considered to be part of the barrel for purposes of
measurement. A seam weld extending at least one-half the
circumference of the barrel or four equidistant tack welds around
the circumference of the barrel are adequate for this purpose.

A firearm having a muzzle brake, cap, or barrel extension
permanently attached by those same methods to cover the threads on
a barrel, would not be considered to have a threaded muzzle.
Please note, however, that any muzzle device or barrel extension
which functions as a flash suppressor or grenade launcher would
still constitute one of the qualifying features of a semiautomatic
assault weapon as that term is defined in 18 U.S.C. section
921(a)(30(B). Industrial adhesive products are not an acceptable
method for permanently attaching a muzzle device.

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Mr.

We trust that the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry.
If you have further questions concerning this matter, please
contact us.


Sincerely yours,

[signed]

Edward M. Owen, Jr.
Chief, Firearms Technology Branch"
 

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ATF is federal, not state. They also have a nasty habit of changing their policy on what's acceptable and what isn't from one day to the next. What does New Jersey law say and how have they been interpreting it?
 

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well could never find any laws on the internet except for the nra website and even that isnt clear. it dosent really saw what u cant have on an ar-15. i do know you cant have a telescoping stock, mags over 15 rounds, flash surpressor, bayonett lug. basically its post ban. even at some gun stores they say ar's are banned but some store carry them so even the people who sell the guns dont completly know the laws.
 

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http://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=240592&Depth=2&depth=2&expandheadings=on&headingswithhits=on&hitsperheading=on&infobase=statutes.nfo&record={1A38}&softpage=Doc_Frame_PG42

Here's the pertinent statute. Unfortunately, it looks like the state Attorney General gets to decide what constitutes an "assault firearm".
 
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