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Indeed, my mistake. Trying to use a somewhat damaged onboard data recovery system. Refering back to references, these boxes indeed were seen during the 1950s and early 60s, not prewar.

These are;

The 1st 2 on the left are made at Frankfort Arsenal in March of 1886 and have copper cases. These have the 500gr lead bullets and are intended for rifles, not carbines.
The next 2 are also made at Frankfort but in 1892 and 1896 respectfully. (Originally I called these Bloomfield guilding cases but in fact that is not correct. These are tinned brass which Frankfort began using in 1888.)
The last cartridge is a much later commercial offering, with a 405gr bullet, simply for comparison.

Though I am not a big fan of this caliber these are some of the first cartridges I ever bought simply as collectables, some 20yrs ago I guess.
 

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45/70 cartridges

Indeed, my mistake. Trying to use a somewhat damaged onboard data recovery system. Refering back to references, these boxes indeed were seen during the 1950s and early 60s, not prewar.

These are;

The 1st 2 on the left are made at Frankfort Arsenal in March of 1886 and have copper cases. These have the 500gr lead bullets and are intended for rifles, not carbines.
The next 2 are also made at Frankfort but in 1892 and 1896 respectfully. (Originally I called these Bloomfield guilding cases but in fact that is not correct. These are tinned brass which Frankfort began using in 1888.)
The last cartridge is a much later commercial offering, with a 405gr bullet, simply for comparison.

Though I am not a big fan of this caliber these are some of the first cartridges I ever bought simply as collectables, some 20yrs ago I guess.
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I just found this thread;it describes the cartridges on the other thread.
I am interested in the 1886 rifle and the 1892 carbine cartridges
Are you interested in any of the cartridges that I mentioned.I can get pictures
Frank
 

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o'connerson,
Nice box of PETERS .45-70's you have. Based on the box design / color it dates 1935-1950

Yes indeed, the .45-70 may just have more variations than any other cartridge. Some of my favorites are the "Short Range", "Armory Practice" and Shot variations.


A.) F.A. Round ball "Armory Practice"
B.) W.R.A. CO. "Short Range" 220 gr. bullet
C.) U.M.C. "Armory Practice" 250 gr. bullet
D.) U.M.C. Shot cartridge


If you would like to see some Shotshell boxes and what they recently sold for
https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewcat.php?category=1
I did not see any ACTVI boxes though.

Another is
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Browse.aspx?Cat=1012
Select a catagory and put in a search term

Kragman71,
Nice boxes.....

John
 

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O'connersun,
Yes, I need to stay away from them too...but it's difficult!
If only I would not bid........

John
 
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