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I'm interested in the 3-9x50 and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them. I want to put it on my new Tikka .338wm. Thanks.
 

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Learned something I didn't know from RockyMt, the Leupold part.

If you put a series of new scopes on the counter, and look through each, you'll find that the new Redfield's are bright and clear.
 

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I'm not sure what you're paying for that Redfield, but if you ante up $199 and get a Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 from Cabela's I'd bet cash money you'd be happier. I can promise you that the much better coatings/glass on the Elite 4200 will be brighter than the 50mm lens on the Redfield in any light conditions. Cabela's is also running $5/shipping on it now too.
 

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I'm not sure what you're paying for that Redfield, but if you ante up $199 and get a Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 from Cabela's I'd bet cash money you'd be happier. I can promise you that the much better coatings/glass on the Elite 4200 will be brighter than the 50mm lens on the Redfield in any light conditions. Cabela's is also running $5/shipping on it now too.
I have a Bushnell 4200 Elite and LOVE it! It is a little pricy but one great scope that will hold up to recoil CRISP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mine is a 2.5 -10 X 40mm and the FOV is nearly as good or better than 2X scopes . Most 2X scopes are 2.5 power - and 3X are 3.5X or so. It is good to read the specs and get a Bushnell 4200.

Do not get a Banner if you shoot hard hitting guns they do not stand up (In 10gauge, 30-06, or 50cal Muzleloaders) - I have went through three before I learned. With the money and time, I wasted (cost more money to sight in a poor scope), I could have bought a higher priced scope. Cheap scopes are just not worth wasting your money on. A good one will save you time, money, and be a lot less stressful (more dependable). You do not need a 50mm if you buy good glass/coating just pick one up and you will say Wow!!!!! I will put money on it like Tnhunter.
 

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I have 2 redfield revolutions and my only complaint is the clicks on the adjustments are not very positive. The finish is a bit rougher than most matte finishes if you are big on asthetics but this is one reason they are able to produce a decent scope at a lower price. I guess I have real good eyesight because I cannot tell the difference looking through lower priced scopes such as the redfields, leupold vx-I, nikon buckmasters and the like, compared to other 500$+ scopes even in low light. I guess it's just me. What I do notice is some scopes really stink in the eye relief and eyebox department. This is where I think the redfields shine for the $$, eye relief is very generous for heavy recoilers and awkward shooting positions. Eye alignment is not real critical it's easy to get on target with it.
I recently bought a nitrex scope that was on sale at natchez and also has a rebate. 3-9x42 for under 100$ after rebate. I thought it's cheap enough and heard good things about them, supposed to be the same scope as a weaver grand slam. This scope normally sells for 250-300$ so it's the most expensive scope I own. I think it's a great scope for 100$, the optics are as clear as any I've seen and the adjustments are nice and crisp. However, the eye relief and eyebox stink. You have to be lined up perfectly to get the full picture and eye relief is very critical and short. I rate it with lower priced scopes such as bushnell banner and similar as far as eyebox and relief, but the glass is very clear and bright. So for my purposes a good scope for 100$ but I would not pay 250$ for it.
Keep in mind my rifles are all hunting rigs and I look for different things than the precision guys do. I need a scope that is reliable, bright enough to shoot game at LEGAL hours and is easy for me to look through. Money is a big consideration too. I believe the redfields of today are solid hunting scopes for guys on a budget and are priced as such. If you are into long range and precision shooting and will be adjusting the turrets on a regular basis then you may want something with more positive adjustment clicks and better glass.
You need to decide what your priorities are and decide what you like. Alot of guys talk about brightness and clarity, but frankly to my eyes they all look great from the revolutions and VX-I up through the VX-III and nikon monarchs and such. I cannot think of one time when any of my scopes kept me from seeing what I needed to see even after legal shooting hours. But as I said my eyesight is very good still. Only your eyes can tell you what's better to you. Whats better is a relative term. Only time will tell if the redfields are reliable, I have one on my 375 H&H and I believe it will hold up for a long time yet. If it doesn't, well, it has a lifetime warranty from Leupold and historicly they are great about standing behind their products.
I don't think you can go wrong with the bushnell 4200's either, I have looked through some at the store but have no field expirience with them, so can't really comment on them much. Other than the fact it says "bushnell" it looks like a great scope,LOL, especially if you can get them for 200$ or so.
Good luck to ya.:)
 

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I have not looked at all brands of scopes so I agree I may be biased - but I would only use a banner on a 22 LR

Yes, I have a bitter taste in my mouth from banner and tasco scopes.

I am not saying anything bad about Leupolds, Redfiels, or any other scope you like (except banner and tasco). But, a $50 4 -18X scope with 50mm objective is best hit with a sledge hammer.

Yes my eyes have went down hill alot since 40 now 50. I know at 250 yard with 10 power, I could see an elks tongue and allmost count the taste buds - teasing.


But shop around and compare is allways good. Bushnell 4200 and 3200 scopes are at discount prices at some places now!
 

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From what I've seen and heard the 3200 and up bushnells are very good scopes, leaps and bounds ahead of the banner and sportsmen line they sell. If the scope has the features you are looking for I don't think you'll go wrong. It seems the quality is very good. I was looking at different scopes a couple weeks ago and said to the guy behind the counter it hard to decide because there are so many nice scopes available today. :)
 

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I would shy away form the redfields, if you wanna cheap out on a scope get a nikon or bushnell. And yes i do have experience with the redfields, and in my mind they are unacceptable.

May as well make the old leupold suggestion, go find a nice used vxII, kdub sold a couple on here for 100 bucks, sure you could find one under 200 somewhere.
 

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May as well make the old leupold suggestion, go find a nice used vxII, kdub sold a couple on here for 100 bucks, sure you could find one under 200 somewhere.[/QUOTE]

Be careful! There are cheap Leupold counterfeits out there. Go to Leupold's web site to learn how to tell the difference.

You may want to consider the Nitrex line by Weaver...good glass...Bushnell Elite quality scope. Weaver is evidently ending the line and if you go on to Natchez you can get a steal on a 3-10X 50 right now...much better price than the Bushnell.

I have a couple of the Nitrex and also have a Redfield revolution...though I haven't tried the latter in the field yet. The glass seems pretty good while shooting from the bench but I haven't compared it side-by-side to my VXII's or III's or the nitrex scopes.
 

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I should clarify that the nitrex scope I have is a TR1 model and is short on eye relief for anything with much recoil. The TR2 models have more eye relief but I have not looked through one of those. If you like them It's certainly a great deal natchez has going. Agood used leupold is a great idea too if you can find one for the right money$ I'm always in the wrong place at the wrong time and when I find used leupolds they want about 20$ less than a new one.:(
Good luck:)
 

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Wow thank you all for all the info. I think I will go look through the Redfield and see what I think. I also found a Leupold VX-1 at wal mart for $299. I just need a scope that will let me see well and hold up to the .338's recoil. I will go shopping and post the results when I buy one. So again thank you for the info.
 

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The new Redfields are made here in the states by a division of Leupold.

The ones I have seen at the range have the clarity and ease of adjustments as other brands of scopes in their price range. The warranty is ironclad and backed by Leupold.

I'd be leery of their spotting scopes, though. The one (and only) I saw show up at the range was defective right out of the box and the box was stamped "Made in China".
 

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Wow thank you all for all the info. I think I will go look through the Redfield and see what I think. I also found a Leupold VX-1 at wal mart for $299. I just need a scope that will let me see well and hold up to the .338's recoil. I will go shopping and post the results when I buy one. So again thank you for the info.
for 300.00 you can buy a used VX-II for 250.00 and save 50.00 to use for the rings and bases. if you hunt with this rifle and hunt in all weather conditions then i would really give thought to that 4200 Elite in 3-9x40. the raingaurd feature on the Ellites work well, i have personal experiance with that i can vouch for. also if you go 50 mm aobjective you will not be able to mount your scope as low as you would like to, something to consider.
 

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Only have experience with one of the new Leupold Redfields.

It's going back.

The clicks come nowhere near to equalling the adjustment they claim to be. Very disappointing. :(
 

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[QUOTE=Jim H;556325]for 300.00 you can buy a used VX-II for 250.00 and save 50.00 to use for the rings and bases. if you hunt with this rifle and hunt in all weather conditions then i would really give thought to that 4200 Elite in 3-9x40. the raingaurd feature on the Ellites work well, i have personal experiance with that i can vouch for. also if you go 50 mm aobjective you will not be able to mount your scope as low as you would like to, something to consider.[/QUOTE]

Great advice Leupold scopes are well know for being awesome
But I would NOT Get Leupold bases and rings!!

Talley one piece ones are the next ones I want to try - I have not used them. But, the base and the rings are made from one piece of metal. Leupold bases and rings can cause a lot of problems and to me are not worth the risk when you can get better bases for under $50.

The RAINGUARD on Bushnell 4200 Elite scopes works great but I do not think you need the 50mm objective if it puts you out of your price range. But Leupold scopes have a far longer track record.
 

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In my opinion a 3x9 with a 50mm objective is more liability than an asset.

50mm increase the scopes size and for shooting hours it may not even help - depending on your eyes.

That is if you get a good quality scope with good light transmission

I think they were started for areas were people hunt at night (Germany) and as a sells gimick.
 
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