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I have a deerslayerll that has been in the cabinet for years. All of my deer hunting is done with black powder. Anyway

I want get out the ole deer slayer and use it but the slugs are so expensive it's prohibitive. The "shotgun" has a rifled barrel. Is it practical to reload slugs for this gun? I have been lookin around a bit and see that Lee makes a slug mold where the slug can be loaded in a AA hull. I have a Lee shotgun press that I have used for shot for years. Anyway can someone help me with this problem?

thanks for the help
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I was suprised to see the roll crimpers really aren't that expensive. My problem is I have a ton of AA hulls. I'm gonna try them first.

I can't find my lead pot to save my life. Had it for years now looks like I gotta buy another one. Crap..........:mad:
I got better accuracy from the Lee slug by separating the petals where they are tacked at the front of the wad. I think they were causing the slug to tumble before they assymetrically let loose in their original form. There is some pretty hot load data included with the mold, IIRC.
Yea your right about the hot loads. I loaded with 38.5gr of Accurate 5. It was bad with the deerslayer ll but the mossberg 500 has horrible. I am goin to try 35gr next time.
What have you found is a good effective load for deer that won't beat ya up?

Thanke
hmm I wonder if used roll crimp hulls work...ie store bought slugs...lots of them in the garbage just before our two shotgun ML seasons at the club??
Yes used roll crimped hulls work just fine, and hulls that were previously fold crimped work as well as a new hull after you have trimmed them. There are tools available to help trim the hull perfectly round, and to skive them, but you can make your own tools for this. Trimmed hulls require specific load data such as a change to the wad column.
Yes used roll crimped hulls work just fine, and hulls that were previously fold crimped work as well as a new hull after you have trimmed them. There are tools available to help trim the hull perfectly round, and to skive them, but you can make your own tools for this. Trimmed hulls require specific load data such as a change to the wad column.
thanks,do you cut off 1/4" and does this not make the compleated shell shorter then 2 3/4"
?? Thanks Jonathan
thanks,do you cut off 1/4" and does this not make the compleated shell shorter then 2 3/4"
?? Thanks Jonathan
Yes, just cut the hull at the base of the crimp. You will need to adjust your wad column due to the shorter length. If you are using tapered hulls the pressures will almost always be higher (according to one manual i have) but since shotshell loads are always compressed there usually are no problems. Do keep in mind though when experimenting with shotshell loads that since they operate at lower pressures than hand guns/rifles sometimes the first pressure sign will be the last for your gun!
Thanks Scott,
I thank you for your time....and your concern I did not know about the shorter hull higher pressures game but I will defenetly keep this in mind as for pressure signs in a shot gun I agree that the signs are different and less noticable but I find them still the same and reliable ie: stuck cases due to swelling case head,bolt face strikes on the case head and popped or blown primers...I like win 209 and cheddite as I find them softer but I find CCI the most reliable primer for detecting HP signs in any load
do you find this to be true for your loading as well?

thanks again for your time Jonathan
Walkeast, I can't say whether or not cci primers show pressure signs better than other primers because i only use cci's in light shot loads. I use winchester primers more than others, but with the exception of fed 209a or cci 209m when loading blue dot in heavy loads works best for me. The base wad design in some hulls can give a false sense of high pressures. Hulls like the sellior bellot with an abnormally high cylindrical base wad will expand the metal base to the point where resizing is near impossible except with the mec collet sizer. This will happen with the first firing of the factory loading, and too the hulls require a cork, felt, or card wad build. The AA12r plastic wad is the only one i have found that will work with this hull.
Are the Winchester WW12R wads discontinued?? I was told they were. If so what is the alternative?
Claybuster makes a replacement wad (CB1138-12) i haven't used them yet as i still have a supply of the AA12r.
I just loaded a few Lee slugs. I know the 38.5gr of Acc #5 is accurate in the deerslayer. I loaded 5 more just so I had something to hunt with until I could come up with a less punishing load. Talked to Lee about the loads. He said the 38.5gr was max load and would probably do better with 10% less powder. I haven't shot them yet but made a few @ 35gr and a few at 30gr of Acc#5. I plan to shoot them today to see how they go and will let you know what I find, if anything.

What do you guys use that is effective on deer and doesn't punish the shooter?
My load for the 1oz. lee slug is 49.0 grains blue dot, waa12 wad, fed 209a, gold medal hull. 1,690 fps pv. I have tried universal with the Lee and Lyman slugs, but i don't recall using #5 although i do have some in my powder cabinet. The above load is not very kind to the shoulder!
Yeah that's the problem. I know you only shoot once(hopefully) in a hunting situation but it would be nice to have a bit less recoil.
Anyway I got out to try the new loads this afternoon.

Here are my loads so far.
Winchester AA 12ga hull
Winchester 209 primer
Accurate #5 powder
AA12SL wad
Lee 1oz slug
Crimped hull

The only thing I changed was the grains of powder.
First loads...........38.5grains....accurate but punishing grouped well
Second Load........35 grains......accurate nice recoil grouped very well
Third Load...........30 grains.......not as accurate nice recoil

The second load is what I was looking for. This will be my hunting load. I only shot these loads in the Deerslayer. Next time I will try the same load in the smooth bore imp cyl Mossberg and see what happens.

I was also surprised to see that only 3grains made that much difference. Oh, with the way the slug went through the conveyor belt target and into the embankment there is plenty of power in any of these loads.
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