Rem 700 trigger?
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Depends. How old is your 700?
If recent it probably has no problem.
If it is ancient you have the option of sending it back to Remington and having them return it to you with the trigger pull set at lawyer proof 5-8 pounds.
You can also buy an aftermarket, but if you play with the aftermarkets enough and try to start setting them to "hair trigger" status (e.g. below 2 1/2 oz) you can get the same problem all over again.
Just my 2 cents worth
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If recent it probably has no problem.
If it is ancient you have the option of sending it back to Remington and having them return it to you with the trigger pull set at lawyer proof 5-8 pounds.
You can also buy an aftermarket, but if you play with the aftermarkets enough and try to start setting them to "hair trigger" status (e.g. below 2 1/2 oz) you can get the same problem all over again.
Just my 2 cents worth
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Why not contact remington first to see if it is covered under the Safety Modifcation program Let them solve the problem.
On both my 700's the bolt can be opened in the safe position which I believe was after 1982. If the problem is just having the trigger too light then I believe I am fine as any gun could be made unsafe by too light a trigger. No one seems to say what the actual problem is if it even exists, all you here is "the gun could accidently discharge". I've heard no one who says they are defective state what the actual mechanical defect is.
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The problem used to be that "once the trigger is pulled with the safety in the "safe" position and then when the safety was released the rifle would discharge whether the trigger had pressure on it or not".
Going back to RJ's rules of safe gun handling rule #1. TREAT EVERY GUN AS IF IT WAS LOADED AND THE SAFETY DOESN'T WORK.
RJ
Going back to RJ's rules of safe gun handling rule #1. TREAT EVERY GUN AS IF IT WAS LOADED AND THE SAFETY DOESN'T WORK.
RJ
In mechanical terms, what actually makes that happen? Inadequate sear engagement?
I agree with rule #1. The old gentleman that taught the hunters safety course when my son took it last year asked "what is the definition of a safety?" His answer: " a mechanical device made by man that is prone to failure, NEVER rely on the safety".
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I'm not sure
but if I were to guess that or not enough "creep". I'm not a gunsmith and don't claim the honor so . . . . . . . . .RJ
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The point is you guys keep drifting to the problem !!!
Remington bolt actions can and some times will discharge when the safety is moved to the off position or then when the bolt is closed safety off .
On any rifle if you were to modify the trigger you could create an unsave trigger , and this is what Remington has been pointing out . "But" if you read these forums from the start, you will see where guys whith out mods to the triggers have had an accidental discharge . (Myself included
Now remington has offered to repair these units until the end of the year .
It is up to all you guys that has had Remington bolts , since Moses parted the sea, to have your guns checked over .
Remington bolt actions can and some times will discharge when the safety is moved to the off position or then when the bolt is closed safety off .
On any rifle if you were to modify the trigger you could create an unsave trigger , and this is what Remington has been pointing out . "But" if you read these forums from the start, you will see where guys whith out mods to the triggers have had an accidental discharge . (Myself included
Now remington has offered to repair these units until the end of the year .
It is up to all you guys that has had Remington bolts , since Moses parted the sea, to have your guns checked over .
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Good point Harry and I agree. If Remington is going to fix it I'd darn sure send it in.
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I like and own several 700's, and have for years. The "safety issue" has always been there, and a couple times over the years it's popped up in a production run and caused problems.
Personally, I consider the cost of a M700 to include a Timney these days. For the cost they are more than adequate for a hunting/varmit rifle, and when I sell one, I replace the factory trigger and keep the Timney. I've one that's been on at least three 700's over the years, and it always drops in and works like a charm. I've never had an accidental discharge.
That said, it just plain isn't a Ruger MKII or M70 safety, with the option to mechanically block the firing pin in case of a spill on a slippery hill. Probably the best reason to know where it's pointed at all times.
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I had this problem with a 1971 model 700bdl, had it fixed by a gunsmith in 1974 after it had discharged twice when taking it off saftey.
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Swampman, that is misinformation that is not useful. Too many incidents to ignore. Time to end the stump preaching.
This is fairly simple everyone. If you don't trust your Rem 700 (or 600 or 660), send it to Rem and get it fixed before the end of the year. Or, have a gunsmith replace the trigger. Or, do some testing on your own and follow safe practices. I have 6 Rem 700's, 600's, 660's. One old Rem 700 discharged when my friend pulled the trigger while on safe, then slid the safety to fire. That got reworked. I'm not going to lose any sleep over this as I've never had any other problems and I think I'm fairly safe. If you're losing sleep, do something about it. At the moment, Rem is offering some help.
I just want to point out the "recall" which has existed for many years only applies to 700s made before 1982.
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There is nothing like beating a dead horse with this issue.
Keep your trigger assemblies clean/oiled and you will likely never a problem if there is even one in the first place.
Keep in mind fellas, this is a story/issue that was broke by NBC news. The same folks that were caught purposely igniting fuel tanks in the GM p/u trucks to make them turn into fireballs to get a sensationalized story to make a bunch of money off of.
There may full well be an issue. That's why in the manual it says to always keep your gun pointed in a safe direction.
Keep your trigger assemblies clean/oiled and you will likely never a problem if there is even one in the first place.
Keep in mind fellas, this is a story/issue that was broke by NBC news. The same folks that were caught purposely igniting fuel tanks in the GM p/u trucks to make them turn into fireballs to get a sensationalized story to make a bunch of money off of.
There may full well be an issue. That's why in the manual it says to always keep your gun pointed in a safe direction.
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I have had the same issue with old Mossbergs as well. But fortunately the gun was pointed in the right direction. And it doesn't get used any more. Old guns that have been used quite a bit do need the occasional inspection and cleaning. And a boatload of common sense.
Guns are mechanical devices. Mechanical devices fail. That's why we are supposed to use common sense and safety with them.
Guns are mechanical devices. Mechanical devices fail. That's why we are supposed to use common sense and safety with them.
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And I had it happen with a Ruger 77 that someone had monkeyed around with. So no, it's not brand-specific.
But, it does seem to happen much more often with Remington than other marks. There are lots and lots of reliable reports of unaltered factory guns doing this, and this isn't the first recall, either.
Even die-hard Ford fans had to admit that Pintos would burst into flames when rear-ended!!!!
But, it does seem to happen much more often with Remington than other marks. There are lots and lots of reliable reports of unaltered factory guns doing this, and this isn't the first recall, either.
Even die-hard Ford fans had to admit that Pintos would burst into flames when rear-ended!!!!
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