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I just read an article recently by Sam Fadala and he talked about the spiral tube in this pump so you could use pointed bullets.

On one of the threads several of you also mentioned these types of tubes.

Any more information out there?? I would think the patent would have expired by now?!

As someone said, a 336 in .250 Savage would be fantastic.

Thanks for any information.
 

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Have used a 141 in .25Rem. for a few seasons, and the spiral tube evidently worksw as some of the factroy loads used spitzer bullets...my hand loads some times used spitzers...and the sprial did keep the points from resting on the pimer of the round above.

Read in a couple of old books that therw were a couple of tool-room .250savage chambered 336's but never made it into production...no written comment on the magazine tube style. May be a presure related decision, but believe the .336 could be made to work at the .250's factroy level.

It's a simple solution that could work fine in current lever rifles...can't believe the patent still applies after all this time (and evident dissuse by Remington).

In fact, if I ever find a saper spiral tube , may well have a go at making one work on a Marlin.
 

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I have often wondered about that as well. It seems like such an obvious solution to the problem of pointed bullets in a tubular magazine and it has apparently worked before. Can't imagine why none of the lever gun companies have tried using the spiral tube or some variation thereof.

I also thought that someone should design a spitzer bullet along the lines of a Nosler balistic tip but with a plastic tip that would be soft enough not to be capable of setting off a primer yet firm enough to stay aerodynamic leaving the barrel. Would be neat to have factory loaded 30-30 spitzer that you could use in any standard 94 or 336!

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