From the thread you apparently did not take the time to read
maybe you fellas know something i dont, but i thought id chime in
before buying my new model vaquero 45 colt, i did alot of online research and reading about the gun. all i ever found was that the new vaquero 45 was sort of a weak suck, and couldnt handle much more than black powder pressure loads. somehow , i fund that hard to believe.
i got a wild hair and decided to call ruger directly. firstly, i spoke to a gentlemen down there, but for the ife of me i cant remeber the guys name. we spent about 1/2 hour on the phone discussing the new model vaquero and what types of amunition can be fired in it. he said while ruger doesnt advocate the use of reloads in any of there firearms, that the new model vaquero is well suited to handle all regular factory loads,including +P AND +P+. i told him had read all of this stuff online saying that the gun couldnt handle those sort of pressures. re replied that rugers 45 proof loads were ABOVE 45 colt +P+ pressures, and he assured me that the new model vaquero can handle it.
then, the next day, i called to ask them another question on the subject, because someone else trying to prove a point (i guess) stated that he had fired ammunition in his new model vaquero,1 round of buffalo bore and the frame twisted and the headspace changed considerably. i got ahold of a very nice lady by the name of tina (very nice lady by the way )for about 40 minutes.she told me that buffalo bore and a couple other manufacturers ammunition was WELL ABOVE +P+ pressures and SHOULD NOT BE USED , BUT the new model vaquero was rated to handle +P and +P+ without any issues
now, let me ask you this. who would you trust under the circumstances?.what you have read online, or what the manufactuer tells you?
i wouldnt figure that they would want to give you any misinformation,seeing that if they did it could cause them one big lawsuit of the gun was to blow up and someone was to get hurt.
now, im not saying the new model vaquero can handle nuke powered loads or anything, but i have personally loaded up stuff myself that was high end pressure side from a well known online manual and powder manufacure,using there online load database and fired them without any problems whatsoever.
Her it is in writing - directly from Ruger
emailed riger and posed the question t them , so i could get it in writing so t speak, just in case that something ever did happen. heres the response i got
Dear john XXXXXXXX ,
Thank you for using the Ruger On-Line Customer Support Request Form.
This e-mail is in response to your question or comment of 04/16/2009
Request No: XXXXXX
Comment / question:
i own a new model ruger vaquero in 45 colt. in doing some research on ammunition on the internet, ive found a lot of forums and such that say the new model vaquero will only physically and structurally handle nothing but the low end cowboy style ammunition (14,000 CUP). on the same note, there are places that sell ammunition marked "ruger and t/c only". i called the other day and a ruger employee named tina said it will handle +P and +P+ ammo. i just want to know what it will shoot so i dont blow it up.
Response:
All of our firearms including the New Model Vaquero are designed to handle all US Industry Standard Ammunition made to SAMMI Spec. including all +P and +P+. We do not however recommend the use of Buffalo Bore Ammunition in any of of the firearms we manufacture.
If you need further information, please visit our website at
www.ruger.com or contact us at:
Revolvers, shotguns, rifles, 10/22 Charger Pistol: (603) 865-2442
Pistols: (928) 778-6555
Serial Number History Information: (603) 865-2424
Please note: This e-mail is sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.
Sincerely,
Ruger Firearms
so there ya have it, directly from the manufacturer . personally, all im worried about with mine is having some decent loads to practice with, and some higher end hollowpoints to carry when im in the woods,like the difference between 38 special and 357 magnum. i load milder loads up with either unique or titegroup and 255gr hornady cowboy LRNFP, and higher end loads with 240gr hornady XTP'S and either titegroup,H110 or lilgun. but as you can see, id rather hear it directly from the hoses mouth rather than rely on some ofthe info you read on the internet.
I spent hours researching this issue and for you to say Ruger never said something I've read over and over again is insane. I know you know more than Ruger and Brian Pearce. Who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes. Really don't get the mule-headed attitude.
