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If you were to purhase a new Ruger Hawkeye in .257 Roberts, would it be the standard or ultra light? I noticed that Ruger has taken the ultra light our of there lineup on their web page. Wonder why? They quit making them?
 

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Don't know about the newer Rugers, but I had a tang safety M77 Ultra Light in 257 that was rechambered in Ack. Imp. - that was a fine shooter and a joy to carry.
 

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Not that I've ever seen.
 

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If you were to purhase a new Ruger Hawkeye in .257 Roberts, would it be the standard or ultra light? I noticed that Ruger has taken the ultra light our of there lineup on their web page. Wonder why? They quit making them?
If you are going to buy a Ruger M-77 "Hawkeye", in .257 Roberts, then BUY THE STANDARD rifle. I had an ultralight in .308 & it was worthless!!:mad: The best it could do is 6" groups @ 100 yards with both factory & reloads. I think the barrel was just too light for the caliber and this "Whimpy" barrel vibrated all over the place when shot. I since sold my Ruger Ultralight "Hawkeye" to a Ruger Collector who was looking for one in .308. BUT I lost as lot of money around $250!!!!:mad: Your Standard Ruger "Should" be okay. :)
 

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If you were to purhase a new Ruger Hawkeye in .257 Roberts, would it be the standard or ultra light?
If you're interested in the Ultralight for it's shorter, 40-1/2" overall length and not just the lightweight barrel and weight savings, you could get the standard Hawkeye and cut 2" off the barrel- that way you won't have the headaches of a skinny, whippy barrel. Any good gunsmith can do this with minimal expense.
 

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the roberts barrel would be a bit stiffer due to the extra .050" of wall thickness but that may or may not make any difference...
 

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the roberts barrel would be a bit stiffer due to the extra .050" of wall thickness but that may or may not make any difference...
I doubt if it would make a whole lot of difference. I also didn't care for the "Matte" bluing Ruger has on their Hawkeye rifles. I liked the regular bluing they had on their MKII's much better. The current "Matte" finish looks cheap!!
 

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All things being equal , a heavier barrel will provide better accuracy , and a longer barrel will provide more velocity . I hold these truths to be self evident , and undeniable !
 

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If you were to purhase a new Ruger Hawkeye in .257 Roberts, would it be the standard or ultra light?
To make the "Bob" really sing, go with the standard configuration. A 22" bbrl is about perfect, and less is cutting the performance too much.
 

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I checked on Ruger's website and they don't list the Ruger Model 77 "Hawkeye" Ultralight rifle anymore. They have a new type of '77 listed that uses a detachable magazine now. I guess they discontinued the Ultralight Model 77.
 

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I've shot a few of the Ultralights off the bench, and my conclusion is they are not easy to shoot from the bench. Very light and whippy. Darn loud, too.
The Ultralight is a joy to carry, but unless you're doing some serious hiking where the light rifle weight is almost mandatory, I'd go with the regular Hawkeye.
 

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i've never shot an ultralight ruger but i do have a model 7 in 7/08 and i agree that it is definately an adjustment compared to a full sized rifle!! i use an uncle buds bull bag so that really helps. i used my model 7 this fall and filled my tags but noticed that it is harder to shoot offhand when the pulse rate is up and winded, all the more reason to use a bi/tripod of some sort or a good walking stick!
 

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i've never shot an ultralight ruger but i do have a model 7 in 7/08 and i agree that it is definately an adjustment compared to a full sized rifle!! i use an uncle buds bull bag so that really helps. i used my model 7 this fall and filled my tags but noticed that it is harder to shoot offhand when the pulse rate is up and winded, all the more reason to use a bi/tripod of some sort or a good walking stick!

Your comparing apples and pears . Not Ruger Vs Ruger .Some Remington Model 7's shoot good, some not, but it's an other matter

The ultra lites are fine if your going to make one or two shots . More than that they tend to heat up quick, and may also change their course of impact . When siting in allow ample time for the barrel to cool between shots.
If you like shooting at the range and firing a box or two over the day- you might enjoy the standard barrel a lot more .
 

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If you are going to buy a Ruger M-77 "Hawkeye", in .257 Roberts, then BUY THE STANDARD rifle. I had an ultralight in .308 & it was worthless!!:mad: The best it could do is 6" groups @ 100 yards with both factory & reloads. I think the barrel was just too light for the caliber and this "Whimpy" barrel vibrated all over the place when shot. I since sold my Ruger Ultralight "Hawkeye" to a Ruger Collector who was looking for one in .308. BUT I lost as lot of money around $250!!!!:mad: Your Standard Ruger "Should" be okay. :)
I agree, I have a 700 classic with a new 24" shilen barrel that is extremely accurate. With the 110 grain Accubond, it is a killer on hogs, which is all I've used it for. I don't know why that caliber ever "fell from grace" with the shooting public. It is a very shooter friendly rifle with plenty of power.
 

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harry, yeah i know but i was just throwing that out there for thought. to me the difference is merely the name on the rifle otherwise they are both lightweight 20" barreled rifles...
 

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harry, yeah i know but i was just throwing that out there for thought. to me the difference is merely the name on the rifle otherwise they are both lightweight 20" barreled rifles...
The Ruger ultralight has a "special" made light weight thin barrel. On the Remington Model 7's the barrel is heavier made with a larger barrel diameter. Both barrels on the the Ruger & Remington are 20" with the Remington barrel being heavier. Harry is correct. ;)
 

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i call bullcrap on that!! the muzzle on my model 7, if memory serves me right is only .560" or 570"... you simply can't go much thinner than that safely, i've seen .550" on aftermarket barrels but you are gonna have to put some numbers out there to convince me that there is any substantial difference between the ruger lightweight and the model 7!!
 
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