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Quite some time back I asked for opinions on the Security Six. Everything I heard here and elsewhere was favorable, so yesterday I picked up a circa 1974 blued 4". Its not minty or beat just a nice older sixgun that shows a little wear. Double action trigger is pretty rough/stagey but the single action pull feels as nice as my wife's S&W 1917 (well almost as nice.) can't wait till I can free up a little time to go shooting.
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PS price was 270 out the door.
 

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My brother in law, before he opted to become a felon, had one of these revolvers. It was sturdy and resonable accurate, like most Ruger handguns. If you want to fire it double action, you can have a trigger job done if you want to shell out the cash. I've found that the double action pull will sometimes become smoother with a lot of use, but not lighter. You can cure the heaviness with a spring kit usually.
 

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Andy,

Back in 1985 I was issued a Ruger Security Six (Stainless) for my duty weapon. I carried it for 10 years until my agency opted for the Beretta 96D. I tried to shoot that Ruger to pieces and could not do it. The accuracy and durability of that revolver is far better than any other DA revolver I have shot. I fed it a steady diet of magnum cartridges, all weights, at least 100 rounds every month, not including pistol matches and quarterly qualifications. The only thing that showed any use was the apparent holster wear. A bunch of us tried to "Buy Back" our Rugers when we upgraded (snicker), but the Clinton Administration put the brakes on that. In my humble opinion, you made out like a bandit. Incidentaly, the trigger did smooth out but never did get lighter.

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Andy,

Be exceptionally careful with spring kits on two levels. First, while you may reduce the pull weight you may also reduce the hammer force against the primer. Misfires will result. I've had it happen to me with a couple of guns from different manufacturers. Secondly, if your new Ruger will be used for regular defensive carry, a less-than-honorable prosecutor might make a grand great deal out of your "hair trigger Magnum." Theoretically it could be the difference between a justifiable shooting and time behind bars as Bubba's girlfriend.
 

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Andy,
I'll second what Bill Lester said about the spring kit I suggested. I have had some problems with them in a few pistols that I own. The problem used to be with CCI primers because the cup was a harder material than the Federals. The old Wichesters could be iffy, but I've had no problems whatsoever with the new ones in the blue boxes. The spring kits have come along some since the first ones I used. I'll take a heavier crisp trigger over a crappy light one. By the same token a smooth double action pull that is a little heavier is easier to use than a lighter one that is rough.
 

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Shoulda ... coulda .. woulda ...
Does anyone know of a single court case where a prosecutor used "hair-trigger Magnum" against a defendant in a self-defense case?
Does anyone know of a single court case when reloaded ammo was used against a defendant in a self-defense case?
I keep hearing these allegations but have never seen a specific case cited.
I strongly suspect these are Urban Legends.
I'd be interested to learn of such cases. Until then, I'll remain skeptical about their veracity.
 

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I cleaned the gun and oiled it, which smoothed it a bit, I am waiting on a manual from Ruger, so I can tear it down and look over the internals. I am not sure, but I don't think it has been fired much at all, the barrel still has obvious marks from the rifling button. The mainspring on this sucker is HEAVY or I am just spoiled by my Single Actions. I think the next time I take it apart, a coil may fall off the mainspring. It is a little strange, tho, the gun seems to be almost new, mechanically and shows no holster wear, but has a lot of little scratches and dings. Maybe it floated around in someone drawer for years.
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Gatofeo may be correct, that a lightened trigger or handloaded ammunition has not been an issue in a criminal trial. Discovering this would be a matter of reading the entire transcript of thousands of prosecutions, both convictions and non-convictions.

The hard, cold fact is, that even if you are absolved of criminal charges, many times you may still be sued civilly. In a civil action the burden of proof is not so severe as a criminal prosecution and matters such as hand-loaded ammunition and modifications made to the firearm may very well be used by the attorney for the plaintiff to confuse the jury or to make you look culpable even if you are not.

The most important thing, if you are ever in a position where deadly force is justified and used, never try to reduce your involvement by claiming the shooting was an accident! If it was truly an accidental shooting, and the evidence will support this, then say so. By the same logic, if you have shot someone under circumstances you believe to be legally defensible, THEN SAY SO. Nothing will cause more trouble than appearing to be trying to cover up facts or circumstances, or making a statement which sounds as if you think you have done something wrong!

This isn't opinion, it is 21 years in Law Enforcement!!!!
 

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I believe I've answered this question before. I too had my suspicions that subjects like this and handloads for defense were creations of the gunzine biz. That was until a friend showed me a copy of Combat Handguns circa 1993 or so, where Mas Ayoob DID show examples of each and how they made life a living **** for the defendants. And as Alk8944 points out, in a couple of these cases that Ayoob was personally aware of the world came apart in the civil action after a justifiable shooting.

Hey, it's still a semi-free country. If someone wants to chance it, by all means use your customized psitol. I hope you are never in a situation where it may come back to haunt you. Me, I'll stick to a stock gun of quality in the first place.
 
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