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Small Ring Chilean Mauser

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So over the last few months I have been moving my wife's Christmas boxes and tubs out of my shop and into a Rail Container we put in
Amazing !!! I found things out there I forgot I had stashed

One such find is a Sporterized Chilean Mauser 1895 it was re-barreled probably in the 60's or 70's to 30-06 the barrel has a stamp the looks like a backwards P with K on the front

I have never shot the rifle I acquired it from a friend that wanted me to put a new stock on it about 25 years ago but we lost touch over the years and moves across the country by both of us..
Unfortunately I heard covid took him out last year, so the chances of reconnecting no longer exist

Short story I found the barreled action and was thinking of having JES re-bore it to 35 Whelen

Doing a little research shows that these 30-06 change overs are frowned on using the Mauser 1895 small ring action
Looking at the chamber pressures especially for the 35 Whelen they look compatible in the 48000 range

Anyone have hands on info about these

Once again The Barrel is NOT original

Thoughts ???
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I have a converted Spanish small ring Mauser that was converted by a reputable armory that is stamped .308 Win. The only way that I'd shoot it very much with .308 is with a LOOOONG string and an oak tree. I might rechamber it, but it will be a LOW power round.
About six months after I started as gunsmith in 1969, a mouthy Fine Country Gentleman came in complaining about trashy Mausers. He was telling anybody that would listen that a Mauser was no good for anything and knew it because he had one. I asked him to bring it in. It was a 'sporterized' M95 hand stamped '.308' with .018 headspace and a big crater where the primer hit the bolt face. It was covered in soot from blowing primers every single shot. He and his kin had shot up a whole can of 7.62Nato surplus with that rifle and a re-weld Garand marketed (falsely) as a BM-59 that swallowed a Field gauge. I tried to convince him the only reason he wasn't hurt was they were shooting a Garand and a Mauser, but opinions die hard in some.
I bought such a rebarreled Spanish M95 as a court exemplar many years ago. It's in an evidence locker somewhere but has a short firing pin and the firing pin hole is TIG welded shut and a dowel pin is driven vertically through the chamber. It's not going to hurt anybody.
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About six months after I started as gunsmith in 1969, a mouthy Fine Country Gentleman came in complaining about trashy Mausers. He was telling anybody that would listen that a Mauser was no good for anything and knew it because he had one. I asked him to bring it in. It was a 'sporterized' M95 hand stamped '.308' with .018 headspace and a big crater where the primer hit the bolt face. It was covered in soot from blowing primers every single shot. He and his kin had shot up a whole can of 7.62Nato surplus with that rifle and a re-weld Garand marketed (falsely) as a BM-59 that swallowed a Field gauge. I tried to convince him the only reason he wasn't hurt was they were shooting a Garand and a Mauser, but opinions die hard in some.
I bought such a rebarreled Spanish M95 as a court exemplar many years ago. It's in an evidence locker somewhere but has a short firing pin and the firing pin hole is TIG welded shut and a dowel pin is driven vertically through the chamber. It's not going to hurt anybody.
I believe that it was rechambered by the Spanish Armory and labeled and .308 Win. by the importer (Interarms?) I shot 3 .308 rounds in it and haven't shot it since. I believe it's actually chambered for the Spanish 7.62 CETME and hasn't been shot hardly any. That is why I'm considering a low/mid power wildcat. It appears that the only thing that has ben done is a chamber reamer may have cleaned up the chamber, but not much.
My understanding is that the CEMTE round is 1/3 - 1/2 the power of the 7.62 x 51 NATO.
If I'm wrong about any of this please tell me.
Paul
I think it would surprise all of us if we watched a video of someone trying to blow up a 93/95 Mauser action on purpose. It would be interesting to say the least. My guess is they are much stronger than we would imagine it to be and in the end would be entirely safe to shoot 30-06 in it. But that's just a guess....🤔
You can shoot anything that you like in one. I have one, I've shot 3 factory .308 (std. power) rounds in it. I bought it I guess about 20-25 years ago and haven't shot it since those 3. It just didn't feel right, if it makes any sense. It's about like driving a Caravan with a blown hemi. It works until it don't.
First, Does anyone know the loads for a .308 CETME in a small ring spanish Mauser that has been converted to .308?
Next, If someone were going to rechamber/barrel it to a low/medium power round, what would you suggest?
.300 Savage would be perfect but the .308 chamber is bigger so it won't work. .257 Robt. is ok with factory level loads so is .250 Sav.
I've not done it but some 'smiths have put '91 Argentine or 96 Swede barrels on them. 7x57 is a natural, of course.
You need another barrel.
you could buy a new barrel for the 257 Roberts, 6.5x57, 7x57, 8x57 or the 9.3x57. or you could wildcat a 270x57, 308x57 and 338x57.
.300 Savage would be perfect but the .308 chamber is bigger so it won't work. .257 Robt. is ok with factory level loads so is .250 Sav.
I've not done it but some 'smiths have put '91 Argentine or 96 Swede barrels on them. 7x57 is a natural, of course.
You need another barrel.
Yea, like I said at the start, I'll probably spend some time on it, bargain hunting, etc, having everything checked, magnafluxed, etc. I sure don't want to put a weak componant into a potentially weak receiver or other part and try to load it for a ctg. that may be borderline powerwise for this combination antway.
The more that I think about it, I might just use another one of my receivers. Time will tell.
Thanks many times for Ya'll's Input, Paul
The most important check of an early action can be done best with the barrel removed, but a little mirror will do.

The first indication of set back in any action with a split lug is a shiny ridge running north and south in the upper locking lug recess.
This is the metal that has been extruded into the ejector slot in the left lug. In other words, the lug has set back by the amount of protrusion of that ridge.
Mechanically, that ridge gives a false headspace reading when using a gauge. So the larger the ridge gets the greater the headspace but it doesn't show up correctly with a gauge unless the bolt is closed but the ridge stops rotation before its complete.
Shown is the tool that shows the ridge on the first swipe and corrects it to flush with three to thirty rotations. The ridge shown below is less than half a thousandths high and probably caused by the proof rounds. Three swipes with the tool will help.

This is especially important on all the early Mausers and Model 98s made before 1924 and some up to 1935 when alloy steels were used and through heat-treat began.
The earlier the Mauser the thinner the case hardening is likely to be. Actions made for many militaries were limited use rifles. This is especially true of M95s made after the Model 98 was the 'standard'. Chile bought a quarter of a million Model 95s at a substantial discount in 1912. Mausers are the Timex of the gun world and will keep shooting until the smoke bothers you.
Once the lug set back, its easier to set it back more by continued shooting.
Consider that ridge a caution sign. Some can be felt with a fingertip but a little dental mirror is better.

You will find M93 and M95s especially that were hammered into 'worn out' before they were sold as surplus by the pound.

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Ir does not surprise me that the Vz24/98 action protected the shooter better than the M95, but I was waiting to hear how the Arisaka action held up to such events. By all descriptions the well-made ones were as strong as any action fielded by any army in WWII.
I'VE put 8x57 mm loads through my Vz24 that, in retrospect, make me SHUDDER(I backed off at funky primer signs, but still...) the rifle did nothing but shoot them. No sticky extraction, no un-smooth or difficult bolt-turning, or anything. I don't make the rifle "sprint" anymore, and feed it a steady diet of euro-spec reloads. It remains very much of a "DRT" animal dispactcher.
The Japanese actions are 'Mauser-like' in that they direct, deflect escaping gasses in a safe direction. They aren't 'stronger' than anything else, but they operate as Mausers do to protect the shooter. Certain parts are sacrificial and if you have replacements the gun will keep on shooting, unlike the M-S variants used by other countries.
Think of 'shear pins' in an outboard motor. Mauser-like actions have several that protect the basic action and the shooter.
The Japanese actions... .They aren't 'stronger' than anything else ... .
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I realize that Ackley's tests were a small sample, but he drew a different conclusion.

I won't be pushing the limits of any action.
Ackley was a charlatan, who never did a single stitch of pressure testing; while making pronouncements about pressure that were already proven false.

His conclusions about anything pressure related, are as useful as someone believing in tinker bell.
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