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What is the best method of treating a muzzleloader bore to protect it from rust when the rifle is stored for several months after cleaning with hot water? Won't solvent based residues from bore cleaners used with center fires interact with the powder when the rifle is later loaded? What about products such as "Bore Butter", "T17 Natural Lube 1000Plus, and "Wonder Lube"?
 

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What is the best method of treating a muzzleloader bore to protect it from rust when the rifle is stored for several months after cleaning with hot water? Won't solvent based residues from bore cleaners used with center fires interact with the powder when the rifle is later loaded? What about products such as "Bore Butter", "T17 Natural Lube 1000Plus, and "Wonder Lube"?


The best way for me at least.. When I am POSITIVE the rifle is clean and dry in the bore. I take a very high quality gun oil. Like you would use in a modern rifle. I personally have some favorites. Breakfree CLP, Birchwood Casey Barricade, And Rem Oil with Teflon (as a last resort). I make sure the bore is well covered with this gun oil.

Now.. before you shoot next time. Take a patch. Apply some isopropyl alcohol to the patch. Now swab the bore with that alcohol patch. This will remove the oil that was in the bore. I like to do two patches. Then I take dry patches and patch the bore of the rifle dry. Now push a clean dry patch on your jag to the bottom of the breech. Here is where I pop a #11, musket cap, 209 primer, what ever I have. This is to make sure that the fire channel is blown clean into that patch. Also that patch will have a burn mark on it. This tells me that the fire is coming through the channel into the breech. Now you are ready to load your rifle.

My opinion on bore butter. Bore Butter is a wax. I see no reason to wax my metal bore. A problem you will find with Bore Butter unless you use it perfect is.. it will build up in the bore and effect accuracy. Also, Bore butter will trap any moisture you might miss when you are storing your rifle. If you seal that water to your bore with the bore butter you can have complications. When I used bore butter I was constantly getting rust colored patches out of what should have been a clean bore. So I boiled the bore and removed the bore butter. Now I oil my muzzleloaders, just like my modern center fire rifles.
 

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Cayugad's method is mine, as well, tried and true. Clean it, oil the bore, store, then a quick wipe-out before shooting. I also agree on the Bore Butter -- horrible stuff, and I never have understood its popularity. Perhaps it comes from the pleasant smell.
 

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I tried to post to this thread last night and the computer must of locked up without sending the post out.

My muzzleloaders had a light film of rust when storing them with Bore Butter or Wonderlube to protect them. Started using CLP on a patch after cleaning and since haven't had the rust issue.

I do like cayugad and use alcohol (Beachwood Casey #77) to clean before shooting.
 

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For rifle bores I've had great success with products like WD40 Specialist Corrosion Inhibitor. It protects the gun for up to two years indoors. As mentioned above, alcohol will remove the oil when needed.
 

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Glad to hear I'm not the only one with that experience from BB. I used it once and never went back. Regular gun oil is the way to go. Just swab with alcohol and pop a cap or two to dry it out before shooting.
 

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Except for cleaning nipples & such, I stopped using hot water in my frontstuffers over 25 years ago, w/o issue.

When I'm done for the day I flush out the bore with Moose Milk & patches until the patches come out fairly clean, then run a BoreButter 1000+ lightly-loaded patch downbore once before putting the gun in my safe - even at season's end, when the gun won't be touched for several months.

Before taking it out shooting/hunting again, I simply wipe the bore with a dry patch.

I got convinced after my Son bought a new Knight inline, which came with a video we watched, on how to clean/store it using the Knight BP solvent & oil.

Neither of us has experienced even a little rusting since following that process. (We both hunt Southern New England with our frontstuffers)



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I'm with cayugad. Instead of those expensive gun oils. I use the same oil my father and grandfather used...3 in 1. None of our gun have ever been lost to rust. Those wax based bore cleaners can do more harm than good. If your bore is not completely dry, that wax will seal any moisture against the bore causing rust and pits. With oil, just run an oily patch down the bore every other month to be safe. Just don't forget to run that slchol patch down the bore to remove the oil before you load next time.
 

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Irv. S,

You ask about gun storage. For the Mil Spec treatment per the Old Army Manual: Clean the bore with HOT soapy water, dry patch and coat the bore with Mil Spec Rifle Bore Grease or RIG Gun grease. I have stored guns for 20 years with gun grease and they remain perfect. If you go to the Springfield Arsenal Museum, look at "The Organ." The organ is a stack of verticle muskets standing upright, and greased, in perfect condition for 160 years!

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I've got a couple of rifles stored now for a few years and after i completely
cleaned and scrubbed the bore , I took a nylon bore brush and swabbed
the entire length of the barrel with a super thick STP oil treatment. It
is about as thick as honey and I stored the guns muzzle down for a few
days with an old rag under the muzzle to catch any that ran down the
barrel. I have no doubt that the STP honey oil treatment has left
a real thick coating inside my barrel. Before shooting I would run
a few patches down the barrel and scrub out the chamber area
with a bigger brush and solvent.

When I was a kid me and my dad stored his Mauser K-98 for 30
years by saturating a synthetic shoe string ( nylon or polyester maybe)
with axle grease and filled the entire bore with the shoe string and as
much grease as we could put into the bore. Finally many years
later we pulled on the shoe string and much of the grease came
right out and then all we had to do was normal cleaning with
copper brush, solvents and patches.

Ever heard of cosmoline ? google it as it is probably the worlds
most proven gun preservative.
 
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