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does anybody have one?

shot one?

know any weaknesses in the straight pull bolt?

i've always known about these rifles but have just now started to take interest in obtaining one. all the examples i have seen have superb machining and look to be very high quality rifles, which you would expect from the swiss.

a few videos on youtube show that they are capable of 1000yrd shots with iron sights and handloads, this is what really peaked my interest. the fact that they shoot .308 bullets is another plus, what i have most of.

i haven't been able to find any bad remarks, just wanna hear you guys' opinion.
 

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Have a couple of them - both real shooters.

As you surmise, the Swiss and their cousins, the Germans, tend to over-engineer things a bit and the K-31 is a prime example. A heavy rifle that can take a beating in the field, yet is extremely accurate. The straight pull is something a bolt rifle shooter takes a little getting used to, but after a bit of practice will have the system mastered.

The bolt is the most complicated piece of the rifle and looks daunting at first. The disassembly instructions are even more so. Again, after a bit of careful following those instructions, the disassembly/assembly becomes easier.

The 7.5x55 cartridge is easily reloaded and bullets ranging from 150 gr to 175 gr work well.

Most reloads don't want to seat like the original factory cartridges and there will be a slight gap at the rear of the receiver and the bolt flange. The firing pin WILL NOT function unless the bolt flange is pressing the receiver. Best way to accomplish this is to give the keg style bolt handle a firm (or sharp) slap when chambering. Don't worry about hurting the rifle - as said before, its beefy!
 

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The most unbelievable feature of this military rifle is its trigger pull. Most other military rifles have heavy release weights but you would think this one a target job its so light and smooth. Aftermarket St. Croix scope mount works very well without rifle modifications but does take getting use too.
 

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Due to old age failing eyesight, I've had to scope all but one of my rifles - the exception is a 1897 mfg'd Mod 94 saddle ring carbine.

One K-31 has the "scout" type mount from S&K that attaches to the ladder sight fixture and the other sports the cantilever side mount that places the scope almost over bore. Both work equally well, but sorta like the scout mount best.
 

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What was said before a fantastic rifle, that could not be reproduced fore under 2K today. Most rifles have the previous owners info under the butpad, you can go online and look up the information about the name,unit ECT.
 

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kdub,

I wonder why you are having problem with reloads in the 7.5 X 55 MM Swiss. I have models 1889, 1911 and 1931 and never need to slap the bolt handle to close up the gap between the receiver and bolt flange. I wonder if you are resizing your cases enough. I have both rifles and carbines in the models mentioned and all are as slick as a Swiss watch, and accurate. I got my first Swiss rifle in 1961 and am still collecting them and reloading for them all with cast and jacketed reloads. But, NO bolt handle slap is ever needed.

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Webley, I'm curious on the brand of dies you use for the 7.5 Swiss?

Had a K31 for a couple of years. Nice shooting rifle and yep, a very good trigger pull on it. Sold it to a fellow range member who'd commented one day that he was interested in buying one. This gent is kinda a newbe to military surp rifles, but has quite a collection of rifles and is an avid hunter and reloader. Knew he'd appreciate the K31, so sold him mine. After several boxes of ammo downrange with it, he marveled at its quality of manufacture and design and accuracy with iron sights. He decided to see just how well it could shoot by putting a scope on it. LOL, after trying the rifle with a scope, he admitted it probably was more accurate than over 1/2 half of his centerfire rifles. Mind you, he probably owns over 40 rifles and few of them could be described as a low cost rifle.
 

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I've had one for several years now. It was a great cast bullet shooter using the Eagan Mx3-30-AR. I found that what works ok in a cast bullet match, where I was cleaning like the benchrest guys do, and an 80rd highpower match are two different things. Like to never got the lead out of that barrel! My latest plot to conquer the AR shooters at the local range is a2x pistol scope on the S&K scout mount, since limited optics are allowed. I'm getting old enough to see vertical doubles of the bull when looking over irons, but the low power scope fixes that. That idea is going to get a tryout a couple weekends from now. Going to Camp Perry for the vintage match with it iron sighted too.

I'm using Sierra 168gr Tipped Matchkings, loading with C&H K31 dies, they don't size the brass much at all. 45.1gr of DP85 had the 168 shooting Xs and tens on a [email protected] with a 6 oclock hold, rear sight all the way down and using the front blade that came on the rifle. DP85 is some old surplus 2700, the fully spherical stuff of long ago. Magnum primers work best with it.
 

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Great rifles

I have the Model 1911 rifle, Model 1911 carbine and a number of Model 1931 rifles. They are great shooters and get a lot of compliments and questions at the range. It is important to carefully follow reloading manual data. The Hornady Reloading manual says:
..."Because the case head is not fully supported in Schmidt-Rubin riflles, overloads can be extremely dangerous. A ruptured case or blown primer can send hot gas back through the action to wreck both rifle and shooter. Approach maximum listed loads with extra caution..."

The earlier Model 1889 rifles are not as strong as later models and are not recommended for full power loads. With sensible reloads, these are great rifles. All the best...
Gil
 
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