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I found this information yesterday while researching the fatal bear attack in Montana a couple days ago. I found the information here to be downright facinating. It attempts to list and tell the circumstances for all known fatal bear attacks in North America for over the last 100 years. I also found it pretty interesting that Tennessee, where I live, is tied with Montana for the most fatal attacks since 2000 for any of the lower 48. Both deaths in Montana have been recorded this year within the last 45 days.:eek:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America#Brown_bear


If this is a duplicate info posting, please delete. Thanks.
 

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Thanks for link - very interesting.
 

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never seen bear track here in this part of stanly co. n.c.
but the cougar that the books say is not east of the miss.
well ive seen 2 ... right now unless somebody has killed it,theres one with a front paw big as my hand, out there some where near new london....
guess he can t read the books that say he s not in n.c.
i don t go out without a way to stop him ,though..
he may have watched me many times,an just stayed still.
if his habits change ,i may be in trouble some day..they strike fast from what i read..still im no real slouch in the woods..he may bite off more than he can chew..in any case ,he s gonna surely be disappointed if he nails me..not much meat left to enjoy..pity da fool.. slim:)
ps appreciate the bear info.everybody knows if you watch tv that it always the peoples fault..bunk of course..
the thing is a predator an he will prey on whatever don t prey on him..no appologies to those who think different.. this country is suppose to be about freedom of opinion an the right to state it..god bless
 

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Its how we take care of the tourist problem.
 

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Tourist's or terrorist's ?????

Amen Matt !! The only problem is , every time a grizz comes down here for a snack , they haul it off to the back country ! They've relocated several grizz out of Big Fork and numerous blackies all throughout the Flathead and Mission valleys so far this summer. They're even having problems with them in Missoula.
 

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I've said it many times, you cannot allow a wild population to grow uncontrollably. Yes, they're cute and fuzzy for the rest of the country that doesn't have them, we have serious issues with them and they need to be controlled and hunted.
 

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While in Alaska this last year, a young lady I was talking to was complaining because the local bears were not being hunted enough and were loosing their fear of man. She advised that her four brothers did not hunt so she would use their tags for them.
 

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I heard New Jersey is going to finally have a hunting season for their Black Bear problem, I'm sure Chris won't mind.
 

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but the cougar that the books say is not east of the miss.
well ive seen 2 ... right now unless somebody has killed it,theres one with a front paw big as my hand, out there some where near new london....
Yeah... I've personally seen one east of the Mississippi River. I was outside and saw one crouched down in our neighbor's field where he keeps his goats so I ran to my grandpa's house and got him. He and I both got guns (he had a 16ga and I got the .30-30) and went down into the field and ran it off (we didn't shoot at it). This was in the early 80s so nobody had digital cameras then... I don't even think I knew that they weren't supposed to be east of the MS River at the time or I might have tried to get a camera.

My dad and a couple of my uncles said they saw one back in the 70s, too.
 

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I heard New Jersey is going to finally have a hunting season for their Black Bear problem, I'm sure Chris won't mind.
I saw a TV special that had some info on black bears in N.J. and it was pretty interesting. They claimed there were bears of 800 pounds wandering around there and that's about as large as a black bear gets anywhere. The pictures they showed of some of the bears did show some very good sized bears, but the 800 pound talk seems a bit far fetched to me :rolleyes:

Interesting show though.
 

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Interesting, there was a lengthy article in the Greenville (SC) News Sunday about bears in the upstate of SC and the NC mountains and shortly after I put down the paper a neighbor came by, all excited, saying they'd just seen a bear run thru our property.

We have a summer place just inside NC's Transylvania County and occassionally we'll see a black bear but, personally, we've never had problems, although some around have had raiders tear up this or that. Even the sighting of the bear passing thru the yard did not bother me much because its happened before but yesterday morning a new twist was added. I woke to see garbage scattered all thru the back yard! It was an unpleasant task recovering a weeks worth of garbage from 3 houses scattered across the yard but I just couldn't bear to look at it anymore(**).

Of course now we'll have to take steps to lesson our social bearing to our natural guest but it remains in the back of my mind, just how bolden will one get? We pretty much leave our house open, with only a screen door to the outside and even the regular wooden doors will deter few. There's only woods behind us, for miles. So, just to be cautious I have taken a 20 gauge 1100 up there and some #3 buckshot, just in case. It's a gun that my wife and daughter would feel comfortable with and should be effective at very close ranges, like the back porch!

The newspaper article said it was the time of year for young male bears to roam. Guess its right. I know I have proven the old adage; bears DO poop in the woods! (Left a large pile within 3' of an abandoned outhouse!) I don't look for bears to threaten life and limb up there, in NC, but perhaps property. I can just imagine the aftermath of a hungry, young bear in our kitchen after he smelled a pie or bread cooling on the counter! Yogi bear and BooBoo don't live in NC!
 

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""I saw a TV special that had some info on black bears in N.J. and it was pretty interesting. They claimed there were bears of 800 pounds wandering around there and that's about as large as a black bear gets anywhere. The pictures they showed of some of the bears did show some very good sized bears, but the 800 pound talk seems a bit far fetched to me :rolleyes:"" quote from above.

I wonder how many of those 800#ers will be shot at 400-500 yards??
 

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Yeah you have to take what you get on TV with a grain of salt. Whether it is true or not is much less important than the ratings boost :rolleyes:

Having said that, many hunters wildly overestimate game weights. I won't forget a supposedly experienced hunter crowing about a "400 lb. pig" just as I, and another gentleman, each grabbed an end and heaved said animal up onto the tailgate of a full-sized Dodge 4x4. I'm not a large person and the other guy, although taller, was pretty skinny. It couldn't have been more than a few ounces over 200, or we simply could not have picked it up off the ground.

The biggest pig I ever loaded by myself weighed 135 lbs. on a scale, and if it weighed 136, it probably would have been gutted on the ground first!
 

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I agree Mike, I've heard some pretty wild stories about 200lb whitetail does. 800lbs is bigger than most Grizzlies get, and a black bear is quite a bit smaller. I would say that a 500lb black bear is a massive black bear. When I lived in Maine, my roommate was a black bear hunting guide and said that the biggest they got out there was 500lbs, ours get about 350 on the big side.
 

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If you ever see a 500 pound hog, you'll know it. It's as big as a volkswagen bug. People are not very good at estimating weight.
 

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I hunt in the Keweenaw for bear out of Lac La Belle Lodge they have a photo of a 532 lb bear if you look close both pictures have part of the bear still on the ground the hoist would not go any higher. I do not know the guy that shot it but I do know others in the picture I think Troy is around 6 ft tall. If you saw this bear on its hind legs in the wild we would all swear on a stack of bibles it was 1000 lbs.

http://laclabellelodge.com/index.html
 
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