Went to the range yesterday with my Les Baer Concept VI (fullsize stainless). Hadn't shot it in quite awhile because I've been using my Kimber GM (series I). I usually don't shot much bench-rested 25 yd. stuff, but gave it a try this time. Off sandbags at a little over 25 yrds. I shot a 3/4" 3 shot group with the following load: Win 230 FMJ with 5 grns Bullseye in Rem. case with Rem. LP primer (1.255 oal). Now I'm a good pistol shot, but certainly not exceptional- it's the LBC that's exceptional. Makes my Kimber look sick! The Baer has a factory 2 3/4 lb. trigger which certainly helps. The other thing I like about the Baer is it's rock solid reliability no matter what mag or ammo. After about 1000 rounds the Baer is still tightly fitted. Wish I could make similar claims about the $1000 Kimber. I mean it's real dependable with ammo & mags that it likes, but can get downright finicky with stuff it doesn't like.