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I just wanted to post the following article as a friendly reminder to those of you traveling this hunting season. Know the local laws.

Police arrested 23-year-old Keenan Draughon at New York’s Kennedy International Airport Saturday morning after he tried to check two defaced rifles and two handguns.

Both rifles were missing their serial numbers and one had a round in the chamber. Police spokesman Joseph Pentangelo says the Tennessee man also tried to check two magazines capable of holding 15 rounds of 9-millimeter ammunition.

These magazines are illegal in New York.

Draughon was arrested trying to board a flight to Charlotte, N.C., after Port Authority of New York and New Jersey police found the weapons.

Police said the 23-year-old told a United Airlines attendant that he wanted to check two cases containing firearms for his flight to Charlotte, a spokesperson for the Queens County district attorney’s office said in a statement.

Draughon was carrying two 9-millimeter pistols and two .22-caliber rifles, the statement said.

Keenan’s father, Kevin, told the New York Times Saturday his son joined the Army when he was 19 and is an “avid hunter in Tennessee.”

Kevin Draughon said his 23-year-old son was in the New York area visiting relatives.

“We haven’t seen him since he had joined Army,” he said.

Draughon was charged with six counts of criminal possession of a weapon, according to authorities.

U.S. Transportation Security Administration rules allow only unloaded weapons in checked luggage.

The Times offers more detail on the reasoning behind the charges leveled at Draughon:

Transportation Security Administration rules state that passengers can transport firearms if they are unloaded and locked in a hard container. All firearms, firearm parts and ammunition must be checked. But under most circumstances, New York City law prohibits visitors from bringing firearms into the city even if they are legally licensed in the visitors’ home state.

This means that while weapons can sometimes be lawfully checked onto a flight destined for New York, gun owners can be arrested if they are caught with the weapons while visiting the city or at city airports when they try to check their weapons for outbound flights.

If convicted, the Tennessee man could face up to seven years in prison.

“Before leaving home, passengers should acquaint themselves with the weapon laws of the jurisdiction that they are visiting,” Richard A. Brown, the Queens district attorney, said in the statement.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.


Man Tries Checking Rifles, Handguns and Ammo at JFK Airport
 

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More knee-jerk stupidity from the Northeast...
 

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Do I read this correctly. This idiot was about to transport firearms through an airport with a round in the chamber ?????
Sounds to me like he got what he deserved. Regardless of what we may think about the law ... even in the UK we get to vote for the law makers ... it bodes well to abide by it, particularly when dealing with transportation of firearms through an international airport.
 

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While I don't agree with New York's gun laws (nor N.J either) I think the guy was a moron for doing what he did. (or he was a hit man traveling to his next job)
 

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Frankly, why did he have guns in NYC? Why was one loaded? Why high cap mags in NYC?

Sounds like pretty small stuff, but fishy? I hope he can avoid a felony. No reason to lose your rights. How could he not have done his homework better.

I travel with guns. I do not have these issues. This is a bit more than NYC being run by a bunch of jackwads, which it is...
 

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Sounds like he had violated several laws already.... think this one goes on the books as not being too bright, more so than a gun owner being oppressed.

There may be other facts we are not aware of.

Of course the media will hype it to their own ends.
 

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I want to set an example. I think I'll grind the seriel numbers off my rifles, load one of them, and drag them through an airport.

(My son's a good boy. Loves to hunt. I haven't seen him in 4 years, every since he joined that doggone army and got all them tatoos. I remember he used to be smart though))



Reminds me of a joke I've seen lately: "I'm not completely useless. I can still be used as a bad example"
 
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It's too bad millions can do things the right way and one bad actor, doing something stupid, gets all the press. People like this have gotten hunting opportunities taken away from many by stupid actions, leaving gates open, spreading garbage, shooting livestock etc....... Different but the same.
 

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It's too bad millions can do things the right way and one bad actor, doing something stupid, gets all the press. People like this have gotten hunting opportunities taken away from many by stupid actions, leaving gates open, spreading garbage, shooting livestock etc....... Different but the same.
Sad but true
 

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This "brain cell" is my NOMINEE for the 2013 Einstein Award! How smart is it to take two rifles without Serial Numbers through an airport. Here comes GCA 1968. Add to this one rifle is Chamber LOADED! Gee Hah, this IS Einstein at his finest. I hope he gets 7 years to preserve the rest of the USA gene pool. Whatever.

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Every time I grind the numbers off of one of my guns, I make sure to mark it so I don;t make a mistake and take it somewhere. At least, not anywhere respectable.....
 

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Never fly through NYC or Chicago with guns. I had enough problems with unloaded guns, correct importation ATF licenses, etc when returning back from Germany in 90' and its only gotten worse there. Last year I traveled several places with checked guns and ammo. You have to stay up on these things.


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I once stood on a street corner in New York City, waiting for Delta
Air Lines to open their doors. I was 15 minutes early and wanted my 2 incased rifles to get checked and put on the plan with no problem. I was also to meet with the Supervisor at Delta, to discuss my gun case & ammo:)

Well during my stand on the corner, a policeman asked me what I was doing just standing around with this large aluminum case. I told him I was waiting to enter that building. "What's in the case"? he asked. I said just some personal that pertain to my sport I replied! Now what kind of personal things, he stated. Lotion, skip ropes, hand wraps and such.

Now just then more 2 policemen enter the conversation! What's in the box the cop says to me. Like I said sir, just personal things I am taking on a flight we me. Where would you be going? Overseas I stated! To do what? Actually to train some Irish Policeman I stated. Train Cops and how goes that sir. Well it's like this, most policemen have 2 left feet and they don't move very well in a fight, in or out of the ring. Now are you Irish by chance? Yes I am sir. They never even asked for my ID believe it or not. I got them talking about self-defense and they forgot all about my case.

Now another policeman gets out of a car (Sargent) and wants to know what in the blazes is going on at this corner...........Now no one has asked me to open the gun box yet and I did not volunteer. The Sgt. tells 2 of those cops to get over to the next street and check up on a store mgr. I then said well the doors are open and nice talking to you gentlemen but I must get my things checked and attend to my meeting. They never knew I was carrying a pair of Winchester rifles, model 70 .338 mag and model 70 .416 mag.;)
 

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If the police were asking what is in a travel case when you're standing outside the terminal door, it must mean the nasty stuff I've heard about NYC is true.
 

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It is 4 yrs now since I last visited the USA to hunt and bring my own guns. Prior to that I visited at least once a year, sometimes three times. I have never had a problem with shipping. Things did get a bit tight just after 9/11 but that was understandable and common sense prevailed. In later years I have flown through Newark and have always received professional, speedy transfer from the staff their. Any slight hold ups have been because the handler was a hunter and wanted to talk. My one time flying through JFK, I was on my way to Denver and then Wyoming. I saw a vacant desk in the immigration line with a uniform sitting there, so I head straight at it avoiding the line ups. The guy looked up, then at my gun case. He said, "Are you going hunting? ... because this desk is closed." I explained I was going to Wyoming for mule deer and pronghorn and the desk instantly became open. I had to wait whilst he explained missing the buck of a life time and almost begging me to take him with me. I always approach uniforms with an open smiling face and cheery "Hello, can you help me please" and it usually works.
 

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Attitude can always be helpful, except to the wrong cop one encounters occasionally. When you get one of those, never volunteer more information than what he specifically asks for.
 

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I have only flown a couple of times with firearms and the TSA guys in Spokane Washington were much more interested in hearing about my hunting than hassling me about firearms... :D

Sus, we do have a known problem in this country with folks lawfully going THROUGH NYC and Chicago (and maybe some other big city airports) with firearms as they are changing flights, etc. Federal law is supposed to protect the traveler if everything is legal at both ends of the trip, but of course there is always someone with an ax to grind.... If you don't change flights then you don't handle the gun cases again, the airlines deal with it. But sometimes it is unavoidable to re-check the guns especially on international flights were you are not only dealing with TSA and the airlines, but also customs.

The incident in question that started the thread, however, appears to have been with the traveler originating a flight in NYC (where all the rules about having your guns checked, etc., would have to be followed), in addition to local laws regarding what a person is able to legally possess in the first place. If the person in question had merely been arrested on the street for having guns that violated New York laws, this wouldn't be much of a story. The fact he was dumb enough to not only violate New York (and federal!) laws with guns with an altered serial number, etc., but continue to violate laws regarding bringing a loaded firearm into the airport.. and so on.. is what got the press all wound up.

Sometimes people make innocent mistakes and sometimes they are just dumb. I'm writing this one off as "dumb."

Never had an issue with a TSA person, just stand there politely and do as told, and it generally all works out. Never had an issue with the airline people either. Unlock the case when told, lock the case when told, answer the questions, sign the form, and life goes on. It did occur to me to have the guns disassembled to the point it was completely obvious that they could not be loaded (i.e. bolt/cylinder out) and I think on some small level they may appreciate me making their job easier.

But there are jurisdictions in this country where you can get hassled, for sure.
 

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Good story, 2bits!

Here's one from my end of the aisle: A few years ago (post September 11), I was flying out of DC (after having flown in there a week earlier...!!). I fly armed so we have to fill out forms and have a side bar with the chief security guy at the gate. They walk you past the metal deflectors and such, and escort you into the terminal wings. Then you go on to your particular terminal gate and make yourself known to the desk people there. Many of you know this routine,

Well, this particular chief security officer, just in casual conversation, asks what I'm carrying. I tell him and he asks if I'm carrying a backup or any other weapons. This line of questioning is all new but I'm playing along nicely. I said, "not if you don't count knives." He stopped and said, "Where is your knife?" I said "Knives, I have several and theyre in my briefcase here". All of the sudden we're walking back toward the check-in gate and he's radioing for city police officers. Police are ever-present in these airports because they're usually the ones, depending on the airport, who verify your credentials and tell the CSO you're OK.

So I asked what was going on, and he says "knives aren;t permitted and you're going to have to leave them behind. But first we'll talk to the Officer." So.... back at the metal deflectors, I'm telling them both "Look. I'm flying armed and have been doing so for many years. Here are my knives. What difference does it make?" "Well, knives are not permitted on the airplane", says the CSO. The policeman is silent and appears sympathetic. I'm asking for the Air Marshals so the CSO is calling one to come back from a terminal. Meanwhile, the Officer is saying "Look. If worse comes to worse, I'll take them and mail them to you so you don't have to pay fedex charges." Eventually the Air Marshal arrives and says "What's the problem? He's armed and so am I. He has knives and so do I. What does it matter?" So the CSO gives in and I'm allowed to board.

All this drama and commotion. I was ready to say "forget it. I'll just take another flight".

Lesson learned: Like 2bits says, never reveal what you have unless it would be an outright lie to hide it.
 

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Possessing a firearm having serial numbers removed is a federal rap anywhere in the U.S. All the rest is immaterial in this case. What particular kind of stupid does one have to be to try something that ignorant.
 
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