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The marks are below the hammer which is hard to tell in the photo.
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Looks like it didn't get polished as well as other areas? 🤷♂️
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CrossBolt,
can you post images like these, A, B &C ?
A. is cocked Hammer to see thumb pad of hammer wear. This is my .30WCF 1906 dated (2936XX)
B. Is Trademark wear. On mine The second line(-WINCHESTER- shows more wear than the 1st line and the 3rd line (-TRADE MARK-) shows the most wear in the small lettering. This is from all the Right Handed owners of my Carbine.
C. Is hammer side wear. No wear is evident on the back of my hammer like yours but the sides both show wear, more on the left side of mine in the photo.
Recoil Junky posted that the finishing might not have been as good?
I would like to rule out everything I can think of and more before accepting this.
YMMV,
Gregor, CGVS
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Makes sense, I guess that sort of 'impacting' could also have beat that half moon wear (dent?) from the saddle ring(?). BTW, did they have pickup track gun racks back then? Could have been from impacting the prison armory wall gun rack, by the guard removing and replacing daily!
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That saddle ring dent is a genuine saddle scabbard indicator. The position of the gun in the scabbard can be determined by how the ring hangs. That seems to be a butt forward-sights down carry.
It's natural to find a 'cradle' for a gun. That one seems to be vee shaped but a wide one. It's probably just one day of a mistake that wasn't repeated.
It's natural to find a 'cradle' for a gun. That one seems to be vee shaped but a wide one. It's probably just one day of a mistake that wasn't repeated.
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Thanks CrossBolt, Images are perfect,
The Trademark Grip wear area looks Pristine! Nothing like mine. (Or is there wear on the top line (Model 1894) from a Lefty? But scabbard carry would certainly reduce Grip Wear.
I was thinking some kind of rack wear also. That could have happened in the last 60 years.
I love the screw orientation, would that have been a detail normal for 1911? or would that kind of detail only come from a diligent Gun Smith/Armorer later?
Hammer has wear more on the right side just like mine.
Is it just the images, or is the lever gnarly on inside areas?
The Trademark Grip wear area looks Pristine! Nothing like mine. (Or is there wear on the top line (Model 1894) from a Lefty? But scabbard carry would certainly reduce Grip Wear.
I was thinking some kind of rack wear also. That could have happened in the last 60 years.
I love the screw orientation, would that have been a detail normal for 1911? or would that kind of detail only come from a diligent Gun Smith/Armorer later?
Hammer has wear more on the right side just like mine.
Is it just the images, or is the lever gnarly on inside areas?
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gbro this old gun is as honest as the day is long. It isn't really anything special outside the fact that hasn't been messed with. As for screw orientation I would assume thats how it came from Winchester. I just have a thing for saddle ring guns and was glad to ad it to my collection. It goes good with one of my old Colts.
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Friend,
I am poising these questions to anyone looking at your thread. Jack and Crooked Creek are certainly the most experienced participants IMO and we all learn from fantastic threads like this.
Its fun when someone posts a thought you, I or others also had.
So many many thanks to you for joining. And Wow what a nice Colt!!!
Is this a Colt Bisley?
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Thanks much, it is a Bisley. I have one grandson and he's 11 and like me he loves history and we shoot a lot of old stuff. I retire in a few months and am building a new rifle range as I have a lot of friends that shoot Sharps blackpowder long range. Out of the bunch I'm the only one that shoots original guns. Nothing wrong with the new stuff but I love the originals. Check my "New Old Guy" thread in single shot rifles.
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The stock looks like it has been sanded and refinished.
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When I went looking for my first Winchester, I found this Sporting Rifle mfg. in 1908, with a 26" nickel-steel octagon barrel. I would have preferred a carbine, but this was really nice. Not a collectable as someone tried to get a plum patina when they tried a cold bluing. It also had two holes in the very nice looking receiver. I found two screws similar to the originals and installed them. The two holes were for a side mount scope. Capacity is 9 + 1 rounds. It has a Crescent brass butt stock which was difficult to shoot frequently until I found out the weird way to hold this rifle. I dislike semi-buckhorn rear sights, so I put on a square notch rear sight. I stripped the stock, sanded, stained with a black stain, clear coated and soon to add a saddle ring on this monstrosity, Nothing practical of course. As far as the saddle ring is concerned, try tying a piece of leather around it to prevent it from rubbing against the receiver. Good shootin' to ya.
I do recall seeing something a few years ago that the Canadian mounted police used lever actions in the early 1900s. Keep looking and you will find it.
I came into a model 94 that was used by one of the mounted police units near where I lived. Mine was a little easier to find though.
I came into a model 94 that was used by one of the mounted police units near where I lived. Mine was a little easier to find though.
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