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As that I have been house bound a lot lately due to foot surgery, I have been loading a lot of my own. I am new to loading shotshells, I have been doing shotshells for about a year now, still learning a lot.

Getting hulls soemtimes is not as easy as it used to be. A friend of mine gave me a lot of RXP hulls, so I have loaded a few hundred of those. I have looked at the prices at Ballastic Products and they seem to be fair, but I notice that I can get #8 shot 12 g shells by the hundred at Wally World for about $23.00, they also have 2 3/4 deer slugs in the 15 pack for $8.00, I think the 3 inch magnum 15 pack are $11.00.

In my backyard I have enough room to do clays, so I am getting ready to play with those in a month or so when my foot is healed up more.. The local gun club that I am a member of has a really good skeet range, but I am not quite ready for that yet.

I have two cases of clay pigeons and 1,500 shells to shoot at the clays. The Katie who shoots a 16 gauge, has 500 rounds for clays and a 100 or so slugs.

Do you think we are going a little over board? When we get done shooting up our Wally World inventory, then we can spend winter reloading the hulls together.

I am think of buying a Littleton Shot maker, but not sure if it is worth it. I do cast my own slugs, 00 and Punkin balls.

To me the price is right, so are you stocking up?

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Hi-brass, low-brass and Wally-brass ?

Like the preponderance of items sold at the world's largest retailer, I suspect those hulls are disposable.
 

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I Know Somebody

I just happen to know this guy that has Winchester "AA" hulls(once fired) by the thousands that might be willing to part with two or three. "WAA12"wads too.

The combo is great for a kick butt crow load. 1.5oz of #8 shot at about 1370fps. Slaps 'em hard.----pruhdlr
 

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I have Fiochi [sp?] 16 gauge hulls. I do not reload them.
I'd sell em or trade for some type of gear....

Lemme get a count on them....stand by.
 

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150 Fiocchi 16 ga. high brass hulls...[were #8 dove loads]
9 Remington high brass hulls
4 winchester high brass hulls

all once fired.

If'n your interested....pm me
 

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Cheap promotional loads are often in two-piece hulls. There is a separate basewad and they have been known to come loose after so many reloads. Perhaps one pop and throw away? I don't know the exact answer.

If you stay with one-piece hulls (original design Winchester AA and the RP equivalent, the name of which escapes me) then you can reload till the crimps split. 8 or 10 loads wouldn't be unheard of.

Makes buying the better hulls the first time a bit more economical in the long run.
 

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The ones that I have bought from Wally World are the same things that I have been buying at my local dealer. The ones from the local mom and pops shop I have reloaded those shells a couple times with no problems.

If for some reason, I drop a hull in the field, it wasn't that expensive.

pruhdlr can you PM the info for this person you know about the hulls and the wads?

Thanks,

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I've always heard about the fabulous number of reloads possible with AA hulls but unfortunately I'm not one of those who get that many. My experiences have been anywhere from none to three reloads before splits show up in the crimp area. Most of my hulls are from the seventies and eighties. Remington RXP and Federal Champion hulls have been the best for my skeet and trap shooting. Again these are from the same time frame. Don't know about matters today because I don't skeet and trap shoot anymore. Perhaps the best hulls I ever got were the ACTIVE brand. They just went on forever like the Ever Ready Bunny. Don't have a clue too number of reloads with them.
 

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I'll put in a few good words on the "AA" huls, back in high school we were avid duckhunters!, we purchased the "once fired" hulls from the local gun shop and we loaded them untill we had two splits in the petals, mostly because they wouldn't crimp right after that, I dont remember how many loads we got out of them?, but they were STOUT! loads of 1 3/8 oz of #4 shot, they smacked your cheek and the mallards hard!, and several hundred Teal dropped to them!

Although I havent reloaded any yet my current shell of choise is the Remington "Long Range Express" hull, it'll be some time before I can give an opinion on them.
 

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The new Winchester AA hulls (2 piece) are not the same as the old ones and are not completely interchangeable. At a minimum a press adjustment and/or wad change is necessary. I still reload the old style 1 piece 12 Gauge AA hulls, which are generally interchangeable with the Remington (STS, RXP and Gun Club) for trap and skeet (1 and 1 1/8 oz loads <1200 fps), but I no longer buy new AA shells which are now 2 piece rather than 1 piece hulls and require different components and/or a press adjustment. In the smaller gauges even the Remingtons and the old one piece Winchester AA hulls are not completely interchangeable as they require slightly different powder charges to get similar velocity. Don't rule out the Federal (Gold Medal) hulls (which I use in 28 gauge), but realize the recipes and wads will be different from those for Winchester and Remington. Estate hulls are similar to the Federal.
 

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Don't load shotshells anymore. Eight-segment crimp was what I looked for when I did!

Six-segment hulls allways failed first.

Was one of the criteria I looked for back then. AA Winchester and Remington had some blue hulls. Both had eight segments in the crimp and worked well.

Paper hulls were the best. Shoot them until they turned to confetee (SP)!

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Cheezy,

I was given some old paper hulls, they reloaded easily, then one day I have confetti floating around after firing a shot, so I figure they were ready to retire. I threw the bases into my recycle bucket, so they could get melted down and used again.

I have a bucnh of Federal, Winchester and Remington at the moment, If I can get 2 to 4 reloads out of them, I will be ahead. Plus I do note the changes in the press setup and what wads work the best for the hulls I am loading.

Some hulls I reloaded a while back worked better with the Claybuster Wad version than the Winchester Wads. I try to save up all of the hulls that I can keeping them separated and load up 5 to 10 boxes at a time. Of course that is after I make sure the load is right. I use the Lyman Handbooks (3rd and 5th editions) for loading data and try to stay in the middle of the road for powder charges.

I haven't done that much experience with the BPI Multi hulls or the Fiocchi hulls, even thou I have a couple of bags of each.

Most of my life, I have always had a 12 gauge birdgun around and a 870 type of slug gun, but I used to buy enough ammo for the season and give the hulls away. Now ammo is getting expensive and my retirement home has a range on it, I thought I would work on my shotgun skills.

Plus with Katie shooting shotguns now, it is better to look at reloading for the both of us, but Wally World has cheap #8 shotshells for the moment.

Jerry
 

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Irv,

thanks for bringing up that Winchester is now using the "AA" label on two-piece hulls. I have not reloaded shotshells in a few years and was not aware of the change. Bound to confuse a few people.
 

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I wouldn't put it past Wally-World having shells built by a company to cheaper specs, daughter bought a microwave there and when it went kaput she called the parent company about getting it repaired, as soon as she told him what the model number, she was told it couldn't be repaired, the model number was preceeded by a W signifing it was cheaply built at the company to Wallmart specs and was non repairable
..........Stegmaier
 
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