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I just replied to the poll on 22 ammo and I was suprised to see that Remington really fell short of the others mentioned. I've always used Remington 30 cal ammo for deer hunting and never had a problem with it. Poll really suprised me!!! Can you gents give me a few opinions as to why no one seems to using Remington. I just bought 2 bulk packs of 525 rds for $40.00:(
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22 ammo

I was running Rem. ammo through my Walther P22 and it fowled the barrel. Did not notice till it was being cleaned! looked like i poured molten lead down the barrel:eek: No kidding.. It was very hard to clean out.. Ran the rest of that brick in my Marline 60 with no problems:)
 

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My old Marlin bolt-action 22 will shoot quarter-sized groups at 50 yards until the cows come home, using Remington Golden Bullet ammo. If your guns shoots them well, don't worry about what any polls say and just enjoy your gun. They might be a bit more dirty than other cartridges, I don't know, but heck...that's what gun-cleaning kits are for! Show me a single brand of ammo that leaves your gun spotlessly clean and I'll show you how to make millions... :rolleyes:
 

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I tend to have more misfires with Remington .22s in my High Standard pistol.
 

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Some older lots of Remington ammo has performed well for me in some firearms.

I have never seen thier "bulk ammo" work very well in anything that I own though.
Some duds there. More than other brands in my experience

Some good ones:

Target velocty 40 grainers. Good in all rifles that I own. Two handguns would puke on them though.

Yellow Jacket's where purdy good in most of mine. Cycled my auto-loaders and shot respectable groups. Is the best Remington Ammo that I know of (rimfire).

Remington makes some decient 22 CB's too! Expencive, but accurate (in some firearms).

Good luck to you 22mag. Buy a little of everthing to test.

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Cheezy gives good advise. Test as much as you can, and use what works for you.

Used to use "green box" Remington with satisfaction on the silhouette range. The bulk stuff, though, is filthy. Switched to CCI Mini-Mags and never looked back.
 

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Definitely agree with Mike on the Mini-Mags. While I haven't had too many problems with any type of 22LR ammo, I grew up shooting Mini-Mags and have never had a problem, with them.
 

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Rem Subsonics & CCI Velocitors

Yeah, I've never had great accuracy with Rem 22LR, except their 22 Subsonics in bolt rifles. I don't think they will cycle a semi-auto, but maybe . . . . I haven't tried them in a 22 revolver.

CCI Velocitors have been the best combo for hi-speed and accuracy in all 22s I've tried them in. They sure do explode an orange or grapefruit!!!!! About a 40 foot diameter spray of mist and color. A real crowd pleaser with both kids and adults -- here in Florida where we don't have to pay for oranges and the trees grow more than we can eat.

The Rem Subsonics are very effective on gray squirrels, and the Velocitors are always an instant one shot kill.
 

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Thanks gents for your thoughts!!!!!!! I guess what it boils down to is to try many and stick with what works best in your firearm.
Thanks again,
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Yup. That's the advice.

Remingtons rifle match ammo was being supplied to them on an OEM basis by Eley, last time I read the print on a box, so it should be fine. But as to the rest, when my dad was still coaching Ohio State's pistol team, they actually turned down free Remington ammo from the factory rep because the misfires were so frequent in what they'd tried. That's more of a problem for handguns than most rifles, as rifle firing pins can usually hit a little harder.

I've got some really ancient Remington rifle match that shoots better in one of my guns than even Eley 10X or the no-longer-made Federal Ultra-Match they developed for the Olympics in the 90's. Too expensive for most folks, I expect, and the market for it never grew enough for them to bother continuing with it, I suppose. But Remington did know how to do it right at one point in time. Not sure what happened, but companies get traded around like baseball cards at times, and I suspect they went overseas with some of it and lost the people who actually knew what they were doing, or else they just retired when nobody was looking or caring. Can't say.

I agree that for reliabiilty, CCI has it down. Very consistent. I buy their standard velocity by the case for pistol shooting. Federal's standard stuff is good, too, though I think CCI has an edge for feed reliability in my self-loaders.
 
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Ive always used the Remington gold bullet value pack stuff in my Marlin 60, and never had a complaint. Shoots straight, not very dirty and reliable to boot. Guess it depends on what its being used for or in. I know theyve taken a pile of squirrels along with several other species out my Marlin.
 

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don't go by what polls say, instead just use it as resourse material.

I've been using wally world reminton bulk ammo for years. it shoots well in just about every 22 rifle I own.
It is dirty, and because I'm guessin' it's soft, it'll lead your barrel some.
Some pistols like it, some don't. As others have stated, try it in all your 22's.....you'll know if there will be a problem.
 

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I used some Remington Target .22 LR standard velocity ammo in 2 different custom .22 rifles, a Bullberry t/c contender .22 lr match 24" barrel on my Bullberry rifle and a custom Martini Cadet with a half round/half octagon Green Mountain barrel. This ammo actually leaded the barrels of both rifles very badly. I am 64 years and have been shooting since I was 10. I have never experienced .22 lr ammo leading a barrel before.

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If you want to hear bad on standard types of Remington .22s go to RimFire Central.

As a kid, I was always partial to the .22s in the yellow boxes, but can not remember failures to fire until it came to Western Auto type brands.

That was in the 1950s.

But this summer, a friend and I were having a fun time with the .22s and I opened a new bulk box of Remington .22s and after a goodly number of Failures to fire, closed the lid and gave the box to the friend.

Am I a good friend or what, giving an almost full box of .22s away. JUNK!!!!!!!

Went to other brands of .22 and continued with the fun and no/zero/zip failures to fire.

AS stated, the Remington/Eley is a different animal. That is ELEY ammo and not Remington and as such shoots great.

However, there are just far, far too many people having issues with the typical offerings in the Remington line up to point to any thing but poor manufacturing and quality control!

Maybe there is no money to be made in manufacturing and selling .22 ammo.?.?.?.

But on the other hand, CCI for example started with and continues to produce huge amounts of .22s in a broad range of products and I can't remember the last time I had a failure to fire with a CCI product or the products in my favorite yellow Winchester box for that matter.

No, it is clearly and simply a problem with Remingtons manufacturing and QC.

I'm a handloader, but even considering that factor, hopefully that same attitude will not follow in the production of their centerfire products.

But one way or the other, the problems with REmington .22s has been an issue for so long and is so widely voiced, it is amaizing they have not taken steps to clearup the problem.

Anytime you have people having problems with your ammo, and those same people with the same firearms can switch to another brand without cleaning or other firearm prep. and have ZERO/zip/nada problems, YOU - Remington in this case - have a problem.

Keep em coming!

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It's been a problem with Remington for awhile. 15 or so years ago they apparently changed their priming, either the mix or the method of getting it into the case rims, and ignition has been catch as catch can ever since. My dad was still coaching Ohio State's pistol team at the time, and said it was so bad that when the Remington representative offered the team free ammunition for practice in return for having their name as a sponsor, they turned the offer down. They'd gett 1 in 5 failures in their target pistols, so they couldn't even practice timed or rapid strings without interruption. Just too much grief. Why Remington's never fixed this, I don't know.
 

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Thanks Unclenick,

That is good info, and it is also good to know about when the problem started.

Clearly Remington does not care, and is willing to ride on their long established name.

Hope it doesn't come back to bite them

Keep em coming!

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Remington is the most accurate hunting ammo for me. Shoots like top of the line target stuff in my 513's and my 581. It also shoots the best in my 9422, but only have tried a couple of brands of ammo in the 9422.
 

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It probably was about 15 years ago or so that I had my first issue with the Remington bulk Golden Bullets. I have, on occasion, picked up another bulk box here and there and have not been pleased with them yet. However, I have a Marlin 881 that shoots thumbtacks out at 25 yards with the Remington Subsonics. That rifle and ammo is regulated to squirrel hunting as it is too expensive to just pop off at the range. I don't have too bad luck with the Federal bulk ammo and really like the CCI Mini-mags, but don't want to shell out that much money just to punch holes either.
 

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In addition to all the misfires, Rem had other rimfire QC issues starting AT LEAST 20 years ago. I remember some 22 LR Rems wouldn't even chamber in my Model 17 S&W. No other brand ever had such aproblem.

As a kid in the 50s-60s I always thought Rem was a great product. When I started Deer and Elk hunting, before I started reloading, I used a lot of 308 CoreLoks and was always pleased with them. However, in the late 80s I bought a box of 130 grain Bronze Points (270) that had a dud in it. This had never happened to me before.

Now, I see on Rimfire Central they are talking about "New & Improved" advertising on some packages of Rem Golden Bullets --- So maybe Rem is trying to do better.
 
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