I was just joking around with ya bud. I knew the old .308 Norma was nothing like the new .300 Norma. But I hadn't ever run into the .358 Norma, so I wasn't sure which side of the fence it was on. I just want a .300 PRC case necked up to .338 to take the place of my .338 Win Mag.I don't like to pick on anyone, but I like talking about guns n' stuff.You love to pick on me dontcha.
The .358 Norma, is it the same as .308 Norma, or .300 Norma Magnum
The newer Norma Magnum offerings are not the same as the older, belted versions. The 308NM and 358NM were sister cartridges, both being shortened and "improved" rounds based on the 300/375 H&H parent, like virtually all "magnum" rounds for many years. The original Norma Mags came out in the late 50's. They were basically factory versions of a whole host of wildcats that were available at the time. Norma helped legitimize their rounds by providing factory ammo and chamber reamers, which went a long way toward establishing them as somewhat of a standard, for a time.
Then the 338 Win Mag came along and stole most of that thunder. What little popularity they retained was completely undermined by the release of the 300 Win Mag in the early 60's.
The newer Norma offerings, being based on the rimless 375 Ruger case, are probably better cartridges, but should not be confused with the older ones.
If you'd prefer I not comment on your threads, I am happy to let someone else come along and set the record straight.
That old Handloader article also had the 338 Fed and IIRC used the 210 Partition but around 2550 fps? I can't remember if it used 160 TTSXs. I like the Whelen, but I agree, great performance out of the 308 based cartridges.The Whelen I don't have any interest in,but you know I love the .308 and its kids. I've been thinking about a compact Hawkeye in .338 Federal. Use it with 160 TTSX and 210 Partitions.
Well, Mr. RJ, for what it's worth, I killed my first elk with that same 35 Whelen AI in my attached picture, long before cell phones were invented myself.As an aside, cell phones were 40 years in the future when I was killing elk with Dad's M99f in .358 Winchester or I'd have pictures to share. We never thought to take Mom's Brownie Hawkeye.
Now that M99f is no target rifle, but a nice bolt action in .358 Win might surprise you as well as the guys at the next bench.
A light weight .338 Federal would be nice. A carbon fiber wrapped 26"-28" barrel. Carbon fiber stock, and a 1 in 11 twist. It wont shoot 250's, so the 1:10 is not needed. With that light, long barrel, it might give you 2700 with a 225, with no recoil to the speak of. 210 at 2850 or so?That old Handloader article also had the 338 Fed and IIRC used the 210 Partition but around 2550 fps? I can't remember if it used 160 TTSXs. I like the Whelen, but I agree, great performance out of the 308 based cartridges.The Whelen I don't have any interest in,but you know I love the .308 and its kids. I've been thinking about a compact Hawkeye in .338 Federal. Use it with 160 TTSX and 210 Partitions.
I'm a huge fan of .35s. I've hunted with and killed big game with; .356 Win, .358Win, .350RM and .35 Whelen, I've also used, to bracket the .35s, .338RCM and 9.3x62(3 of these). Of the .35s, I LOVE the .358 as found in the BLR. Lightweight, fast handling and accurate. Mine is sub MOA shooting 225gr Sierras at ~ 2500FPS.Always wanted a .35 cal in the collection. Been looking at lists of cartridges, pictures and specs. I am leaning toward a .350 Remington Magnum. More than I need for anything. More than likely will not hunt with it, just shoot it at paper from time to time. More than likely, I will add a barrel in that chambering for my T/C Encore. Ya'll have any favorite .35's?
Post deleted - I missed the term "large" referencing game, when I wrote a few lines about a two-rifle battery for all NA game. But you clearly wrote "all N.A. LARGE game" and I think you're spot on about that.
I have been reading a lot about it lately because I just acquired a nice Commercial FN Mauser 338-06, and though there are a LOT of older data for it, there are not a lot with the newer powders (like the Power Pro 2000-MR that has been amazing me in my 35 Whelen AI, and ought to be a touchdown in the 338-06 too). In cross referencing the loading data between these two cartridges, they are, in many sources, interchangeable. Not 100%, but I have yet to find a cross reference where the listed starting load for the 338 RCM would not be OK in the 338-06 "A-Square" (since they actually SAAMI-ized it). And in some cases, the max load for the 338-06 exceeds the max for the 338 RCM (odd since I think the RCM has a couple grains more capacity).338 RCM is one I haven't read much about, going to read up on it a bit.
Isn't that the 8mm Rem Mag necked up, like the STW is a 7mm made from the big 8 ?Anyone here own a 358 STA ? one of my dream calibers but correct headstamp brass seems to be unavailable now .
Yeah pretty much , I was going to buy a cz 550 in 375 and rebarrel it but seems like waste and I cant see waiting 8 months to have it rebarreled .Isn't that the 8mm Rem Mag necked up, like the STW is a 7mm made from the big 8 ?
If I made a .33 cal from it, would that be essentially a .340 Weatherby?