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People are so afraid of standing up for what is right...
 

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I quite enjoy the spanking bit...even many God-fearing people just do not seem to realize that spanking is acceptable.

I was just thinking of how it seems only a very vocal "visible minority" has the power to cause immediate change in the government, especially when it comes to religion, and religious ideals. The visible minority thing is, I think even bigger in Canada than in the United States. My nephew was recently doing up a report for his religion class, where he examined all of the "visible minority" groups that recieve funding from the Canadian government (funding, that is, for BEING a visible minority), in one form or another. What he discovered was that virtually the only group in Canada NOT being sponsored by the government for being a minority is the Caucasian male, from 18-35 years of age. I thought it was interesting, since it technically makes the 18-35 year old caucasion male a minority group in it's own right...oh well, no say for us, I guess...
 

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I would respectfully submit, and believe most fervently, that so long as God is in your heart, He cannot be removed from any institution you are a part of, regardless of what laws a vocal, and morally bankrupt, minority manage to get passed. I see this on a daily basis, when good men, walking in the path of our Savior, show by their example that God is the way, the light and the truth. Their are many confused people in our world who can see the good in a person and admire them for their strength of character, yet would never acknowledge that it is the hand of God, in that man's life, that makes him a beacon among men!

They can only take "religion" out of the schools, not God. Personally, and for my children, it is self-evident that God remains omnipotent, omniscient, and OMNIPRESENT! :D

All those liberals can go pound sand!
 

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God isn't allowed in schools for the same reasons truth, honor, loyalty, respect and responsibility aren't there either. When this country took away the small, community schools where faculty and students knew each other and cared about each other with strong social ties and replaced them with with massive educational "clearing houses" with students subject to peer pressure, disrespect if not abuse and manipulation by a few, we went from teaching to indoctrination...and instead of strong, intelligent leaders we get sheep.
 

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Sad day when the liberal members of SCOTUS decided to ban school prayer almost 50 years ago. It is clear to me that decision is one the main reasons for this country's decline morally. Prayer is allowed at many government instututions including congress and it was that way for many generations in our schools. In the words of most every president we have had for over 200 years - "May God Bless America"
 

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The separation of church and state is clear in the constitution. Public school teachers should teach nouns and pronouns, 1 plus one. Religion should be taught at church and at home. What would be the "official" government religion, anyway? Ther are countries with official gov't religions...Iran comes to mind. The great part about the U.S.A. is that we have such a wide and wonderful cultural and religious diversity. It is a pleasure to see and read about the colorful and storied history of the Catholic church, the passion of the Baptists, and feel the human compassion of the Eastern religions, and yes, even the "stone age" feelings of the varied Pagan religions. All and more make up the U.S.A. It is my fervent hope you find good health anf happiness in the new year.
 

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So many people in our country are so pleased that the word 'God' dare not be uttered in our schools. Well, I'm happy if they're happy and that they're happy. You may remove God from the tounges of the children, but not from their hearts. All those who champion 'Separation of Church and State' should thank SCOTA for the gift of mandating a Godless School. By the way, this separation was so clear in the Constitution that they had to rack their brains to see it. To each his own, but I will never tell God where he may or may not sit.
 

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" When this country took away the small, community schools where faculty and students knew each other and cared about each other with strong social ties and replaced them with with massive educational "clearing houses" with students subject to peer pressure, disrespect if not abuse and manipulation by a few, we went from teaching to indoctrination...and instead of strong, intelligent leaders we get sheep."

It is no accident, that was exactly what the socialist professional "education experts" intended to accomplish and they have had a high degree of success. Unfortunately for them, a hard core of intelligent people still have a bit of what used to be called "common sense" and have firmly resisted their best efforts at sheeple indoctrination.<!-- / message -->
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The separation of church and state is clear in the constitution. Public school teachers should teach nouns and pronouns, 1 plus one. Religion should be taught at church and at home.
Separation of church and state appears nowhere in the US Constitution. It was created out of thin air by Justice Hugo Black in the 1947 Everson case. It has become the shield that the anti-god crowd uses to deflect all moral accountability. The Supreme Court has the power to offer opinions. An opinion of the Supreme Court is not law. The 1947 Everson v Board of Education which gave us "separation of church and state” is an unconstitutional, extra constitutional construct, intended to strip the free speech rights of Christians. As the Court ruled in Marbury v Madison 1803, "All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.”
The separation of church and state is a legal and political principle derived from the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ." The modern concept is often credited to the writings of English philosopher John Locke, but the phrase "separation of church and state" is generally traced to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. It has since been quoted in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court,though the Court has not always fully embraced the principle.

Seems very much lead by the public opinion or lack their of, depending on what side your on. It is crazy much like when people say the 2ND only supports the rights of state approved military personnel or militia, and not individual persons. Why is it that the 1st can only support the anti-God or anti-Christian crowd and not those trying to keep this country a nation under God as it was founded, or are we too over look that. That is why they want it off the money and the ten commandments off the public buildings. It is supposed to be freedom of religion not freedom from religion. If people don't like the Pledge of Allegiance or In God we trust on the money or the Star Spangled Banner, or God Bless America, maybe it time to move to a place that supports your ideas before trying to pervert or change ours after 250 plus years?
 

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Well guess we are just to chicken?
 

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The problem with the church and state separation concept is like gun control. Its gone too extreme with its execution by fools.
Bibles to school kids is HIS STORY. What they derive from it is thier belief. No one can make anyone believe what they reject. But they should have the information.
 

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""The separation of church and state is clear in the constitution.""

For the life of me I cant find it in my copy of the constitution???!!! Where shall I look. Please inform me.
 
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