I take that back!! I got the rifle to snap back on together. But there’s no way this inside magazine fits in this stock. At least I got the gun to feed fire and extract now. I had to cock the gun in order to get it to go back together. I don’t remember having to do this before though??
Winchester Model 1903 and Model 63--
I just had one of my Model 63s out to take pictures on another forum and figured a new thread should grow before the big pruner comes along.
This is a Miroku-made Model 63 I bought in Y2K in Colorado in a pawn shop. (part of a great gun deal)
The fit and finish is actually better than original Winchesters mainly due to the polishing process. Winchester used wooden wheels covered in leather in their side polish machines. The Japanese are precision grinding with much better tools. The internals are different. I'll photo the '03, 63 and Japanese 63 side by side to show the internal differences.
It used to be '03s were really inexpensive due to ammo shortage, but that was cured years ago and 22 Win. Auto ammo is sometimes available with LR isn't!
The Model '03 is the world's first successful 22 rimfire semi-auto. Since Long Rifle ammo was loaded with most anything in 1900, including black powder, it took special ammo made for the specific gun to operate reliably.
The pictures shows the Model 63 on top and '03 on the bottom. The only real difference beyond dimensions of the magazine tube is the shell stop. The M63 uses a heavy stamped part while the '03 has a milled part of lower profile.
Seldom can one model last a hundred years without major changes.
Show your guns and tell your stories of one of the world's great guns.
This is a Miroku-made Model 63 I bought in Y2K in Colorado in a pawn shop. (part of a great gun deal)
The fit and finish is actually better than original Winchesters mainly due to the polishing process. Winchester used wooden wheels covered in leather in their side polish machines. The Japanese are precision grinding with much better tools. The internals are different. I'll photo the '03, 63 and Japanese 63 side by side to show the internal differences.
It used to be '03s were really inexpensive due to ammo shortage, but that was cured years ago and 22 Win. Auto ammo is sometimes available with LR isn't!
The Model '03 is the world's first successful 22 rimfire semi-auto. Since Long Rifle ammo was loaded with most anything in 1900, including black powder, it took special ammo made for the specific gun to operate reliably.
The pictures shows the Model 63 on top and '03 on the bottom. The only real difference beyond dimensions of the magazine tube is the shell stop. The M63 uses a heavy stamped part while the '03 has a milled part of lower profile.
Seldom can one model last a hundred years without major changes.
Show your guns and tell your stories of one of the world's great guns.
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I did remove it. I just put the nut on to see if it would fit the new tube. Could you please do me a huge favor and tell me the dimensions of your stock hole? And also I cannot for the life of me get this thing to fit the other way around like we talked about. I took it to the range today and it shoot and fired perfect. I found a new stock for cheap.
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This is so confusing. Then why does the 1903 tube not slide in here but the middle 63 tube do?
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So I purchased this rifle from a gentleman that lives in another state. He happened to live 15 mins away from my buddys gunshop where he also shipped the gun through. I told my buddy to check it out the condition and tell me how it looked in person. He said it looked minty and I said alright let’s go ahead and do the deal, by the way the rifle also came with 950 round of águila .22 automatic ammo. When I get the rifle I tried to take the gun apart to see the inside and clean it for myself. I tried to chamber one of the rounds through the buttstock but it just wouldn’t no matter what. I could manually fit a round inside the chamber, and I could extract it by pushing the cocking plunger down again. So I didn’t more investigating and found out that the gun had a model 63 putter and inner magazine tube. So I went and replaced those with a model 03. Now it fires perfect and mechanically works fine. The problem I’m having now is that the stock won’t fit. I will mention this is a very early production rifle, serial # is 7939. This is the way it sits at the moment. Another thing is I don’t see a “WP” mark on it. Is this a Chinese version? The original mag chambers .22 LR but the Martel fits .22 auto.
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According to my 1915 M'03 and 1946 M63, the mag tubes are the same outside dimensions. The M '03 has a thinner tube for the .390 inner diameter than the .357" dia of the M63.
Here's a great example of manufacturing simplification to lessen expenses.
The Model 1903 at top has two machining steps to cut the slot and dovetail it in three machining steps involving two machines and then the seperate stamped part has to be installed and peened in place.
The Model 63 at bottom has one machining step and a tap with a hammer to do the same thing.
Here's a great example of manufacturing simplification to lessen expenses.
The Model 1903 at top has two machining steps to cut the slot and dovetail it in three machining steps involving two machines and then the seperate stamped part has to be installed and peened in place.
The Model 63 at bottom has one machining step and a tap with a hammer to do the same thing.
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