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Old 05-15-2014, 08:52 AM
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Hey, just saw the new spot for important notices. Thanks!
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:42 PM
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These warnings are driven by insurance companies.
Like "be careful the charcoal lighter may be inflammable." or "Your lawn mower may cut your foot if you put your foot under it."
I generally disregard those warnings because they assume that the American populace has no common sense.
In the meantime, they drive up the costs of everything we buy.
Packaging, forget it!
They calculate how long we may live, driving up life insurance costs.
Do you own firearms? That may be a trigger for higher insurance prices.
These insurance companies are the bane of our life.
Just ranting.
Jim
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:42 PM
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Some of them are more serious than that, though, like occasionally you get one that says the wrong powder may have been put into a certain lot of loaded ammunition.

We had a fellow post one time who said he'd been involved in testing hundreds of thousands of commercial rounds for a government evaluation—LEO use, IIRC—and he commented that if you shoot enough, you eventually see an example of every kind off error a reloader ever makes. I found one that a reloader can't make. I got two cases in a bulk lot of Winchester brass that had no flash hole punched. That never happens to a reloader, because, by definition, if you are reloading, the round fired at least once before. Those two cases would not have.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:01 AM
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Some of them are more serious than that, though, like occasionally you get one that says the wrong powder may have been put into a certain lot of loaded ammunition.

We had a fellow post one time who said he'd been involved in testing hundreds of thousands of commercial rounds for a government evaluation—LEO use, IIRC—and he commented that if you shoot enough, you eventually see an example of every kind off error a reloader ever makes. I found one that a reloader can't make. I got two case in a bulk lot of Winchester brass that had no flash hole punched. That never happens to reloader, because, by definition, if you are reloading, the round fired at least once before. Those two cases would not have.
Uncle,
What you described is entirely correct.
This is what insurance companies and lawyers thrive on.
But in the mean time, responsible people are hit with higher costs for practically everything they buy or use.
Please tolerate my rants.
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Old 05-22-2014, 03:47 PM
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Jim,

It's not just the price that goes up. At The Firing Line a lot of folks have talked about converting their experience handloading into a commercial enterprise. But as soon at the liability insurance cost gets involved, they realize that if they don't have orders for thousands of rounds a day right from the git-go, there's no way they can ever meet costs. That means the consumer has fewer potential sources of ammunition to choose from—at any price.

That said, I don't think it's the insurance companies as much as the too-eager-to-sue call-my-lawyer mindset that causes the problem. Without that, we wouldn't need nearly so much insurance and it would be a lot cheaper when we bought it.
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Where is the recent recall notice for the Remington 700 series rifles with the XMP triggers? I saw it in the rifle forum to begin with now it is gone.
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Old 05-23-2014, 05:21 AM
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Recall notices were clogging the forums with stickies, so we gave them their own forum in the General area, here, then moved them all there.
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Old 05-23-2014, 10:40 AM
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These warnings are driven by insurance companies.
Like "be careful the charcoal lighter may be inflammable." or "Your lawn mower may cut your foot if you put your foot under it."
I generally disregard those warnings because they assume that the American populace has no common sense.
In the meantime, they drive up the costs of everything we buy.
Packaging, forget it!
They calculate how long we may live, driving up life insurance costs.
Do you own firearms? That may be a trigger for higher insurance prices.
These insurance companies are the bane of our life.
Just ranting.
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:25 PM
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The Warning Notices and Recalls sub-forum is to consolidate all the topics that have been spread throughout the forum. The information is about problems and potential issues with components, ammo, firearms etc..

This sub-forum is not designed to be a place to gripe about lawyers and insurance companies.
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Old 05-30-2014, 04:42 AM
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Mainspring, is the recent recall of the Remington 700 series rifles with the XMP trigger no longer in effect? I only ask because I don't see it on here anymore.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:35 AM
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Yes, it is still in effect. A recall never goes away, it just becomes forgotten by the public. It must have been lost in the shuffle of moving to this sub-forum.

Here's the link ~

Safety Warning And Recall Notice -
REMINGTON MODEL 700™ AND MODEL SEVEN™ RIFLES
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:09 AM
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I have made the Remington warning over again and put it up in the new forum. Thanks for the catch. Sorry I don't know who to credit for the original.
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