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Old 02-23-2015, 03:34 PM
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Just finished talking with a rep from CCI. He said they are issuing a new warning about Quiet-22: Do NOT USE THEM IN BARRELS LONGER THAN 20 INCHES They do realize they have a problem and asked me to return them, at their cost for replacement ammo. I have had 7 bullets stick in the barrel most 2" from the end. It's a CZ452 Lux with 24" barrel. I don't think anything is wrong with the ammo. It works great in short barreled rifles. I just don't have a short barreled gun. My CZ is 24"

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Old 02-23-2015, 03:46 PM
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Hello LCHABER:
I get the impresion that the cci quiet-22 is really low powered for close target or rat shooting maybe .
I understand the 24 stick bbl issue you mentioned wouldnt be a good deal.
But out of curiousity is the cci quiet-22 really queit and how loud would you describe it ?
Is it loaded in a long rifle case or shorter like in a 22 short case or even shorter case ?
What is the slug like round ball or normal type 22 slug ?
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:37 PM
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It is a 22 Long Rifle, it's so quiet you do not need any hearing protection at all. It's a regular 22 40 grain bullet. It is just as quiet or I think quieter than a spring power air rifle. In shorter barrels they work great. They are good for squirrel hunting as the squirrels won't be able to find you by the shot.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:47 PM
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Bet they were really quiet if the bullets don't exit the barrel. At what point did you realize they were stacking up?
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:53 PM
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Just test fired some Saturday... compared volume of regular CCI, CCI Quiet, Remington subsonic, and Colibri subsonic (one with no powder and 20-grain bullet). Test fired using a Martini Model 15 single-shot (I believe a 24" barrel).

Quietest by a lot was the Colibri... then the CCI Quiet. Tested for volume only, not for accuracy. Ear protection definitely not necessary for any but perhaps the standard CCI. Did hit a 4'x8' backboard at 50-yds with sights set for 100-yd zero, but grouping unknown. My supposition would be inaccurate at 50-yards... will test another outing for grouping at 25-yds. No issue with sticking bullets... not even with the powderless Colibri.

CCI Quiet made less noise than my spring-operated pellet rifle (RWS Diana Model 54). Plan to stock some of the Quiets and dedicate a single-shot rifle with sights set for them in order to eradicate a few tree rats.....
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:56 PM
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I have a short bbl Itaca M49 22 rifle that im thinking these just might be really nice to shoot in for pigeons in barns.
Im thinking with the low power that maybe they might just be the ticket for shooting up into the roof rafters and not blow holes through the shingles.
It be cool to find some and do a test to see.
Yeah i like pigeon breast wrapped in foil with butter garlic bacon salt and pepper thrown in the red coals of a camp fire for 20 minutes.
Yep my buddies even say im a gut eater cuz i like deer heart too.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:47 PM
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Use some caution with the "no powder" .22 Colibri. I use them for killing rats caught in a wire cage trap, however I have fired them at a seasoned fir timber and had them bounce back and hit my chest. Do not shoot them at close range at anything hard or you might lose an eye!!
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:02 PM
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Come on MontyF. I KNOW I LOOK dumb, but it's mostly an act...Shot one, heard a quiet "pop" checked barrel, no light came through. Cleaning rodded it out, no pressure at all. "pop" goes the next one, pushed it out. Pow, pow,pow, POP, pushed it out, decided enough, call CCI...
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:14 PM
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Come on MontyF. I KNOW I LOOK dumb, but it's mostly an act...Shot one, heard a quiet "pop" checked barrel, no light came through. Cleaning rodded it out, no pressure at all. "pop" goes the next one, pushed it out. Pow, pow,pow, POP, pushed it out, decided enough, call CCI...
I reread your post and see I misunderstood what you wrote. Was thinking you had 7 bullets stacked up in the tube rather than had it happen 7 times.

Now I feel stupid.
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Old 02-24-2015, 05:24 AM
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I've had those Aguila Colibris stick in a 24 inch barrel.
Maybe any of the quiet/short range loads can potentially stick in a longer barrel.
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Old 02-24-2015, 06:45 AM
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I found a box recently. Ill be careful.

Probably a knockoff of the Colibri-no powder or minute amt.
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Old 02-24-2015, 06:51 AM
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Try the CCI CB caps, quiet enough in a rifle with much more smackdown & range.
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:59 AM
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One 22 round i used to shoot which worked very well for low noise and actualy so queit it wasnt even heard by the next door neighbor on pests was the Dynamil Nobel BB cap.
It came in a small round plastic yellow container with a red push on cap.
Its labeled 10 Flobert-Patronen and it was loaded with a round lead ball and entire shell with lead ball measured right at 3/8 inch long.
Not sure id say powderless but if you pulled a ball it didnt have any powder that poured out but in the bottom was a paper type patch that may have been just primer compound or maybe just a pinch of powder i dont know for sure.
The flobert bb cap also had an imprint stamped in the cottom of the case that looked just like an acorn .
But it wasnt much thicker than the toy gun caps you see.
This round was more than enough on a rabbit at 25 feet and on a racoon it did the job but sometimes a second shot so a bit under powered for coons in my opinion for a humane dispatch.
I have some of the calibri shells and the yellow box at 25 feet does bounce back of off a 2x4 but the red box which is bit stronger will just stick in the bd and stay but can be easily pulled out by hand where with the bb cap in the dynamil flobert the round ball pentrates to just even with the round ball in the bd and pretty much penetrating evenly with the bds smooth top.
So my experience has been in power ratings the colbri yellow was lowest with colbri red box being a bit more powered but the Dynabil flobert beat them as most power but dang quiet like snapping your finger .
More of a poof than snap to me.
Looking at my Aquila colibri yelow box its labeled .22 Colibri 20gr slug no powder but no fps listed and the Red box is labeled Aquila Super Colibri 20 gr slug powderless but no fps .
So cant say what the fps is to compare but obviously yello box is less tha red box by penetration testing and i suspect the flobert bb might be a bit more faster from testing.
Problem is i havent seen them in years but have a few left and would love to get some but with prices and shortages im sorta thinking id need a bank loan to get them if i found any.
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Old 02-24-2015, 09:07 AM
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Those CZ 452 barrels are really tight. So tight I have to use a 17 caliber cleaning rod on mine.
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:03 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on the CCI Quiets, I've been looking for some locally for quite a while.

They are my bullet of choice in my Marlin 981T for all sorts of small pest removal. Never had an issue beyond the occasional FTF, but all the ones I have left are over 2 years old and I'm on my last brick.
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Ukelay13, Midway USA has the CCI Quiet22 often. Check them. I think they have them for $39 per brick. Like I say, I don't think there is anything wrong with the ammo, except that it should only be used in barrels shorter than 20". If I had a 22 with a shorter barrel, I would keep them. Love the rounds. I had a Smith&Wesson Mod41 but it wouldn't cycle them
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Old 02-27-2015, 03:05 AM
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No problems with my CZ452. 1 inch groups at 50 yards. Hits 6 inches low from a High Speed 40 gr zero. Will be careful after reading this thread.
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I've got a few boxes of the Quiet-22 and it works fine from our 20" barreled rifles. We even shoot them out to 100 yards, with just a "wee bit" of hold-over!

It won't cycle the action on a semi-auto pistol, but we've actually turned that into a good thing. We load up two mags with the Quiet-22 and practice clearing a jammed action.
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Old 02-28-2015, 08:16 PM
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I have a pile of these quiet rounds. I have shot quite a few Aguila Super Colibris (Regular Colibri will often stick in a rifle barrel, and are intended for revolvers.) I love being quieter than a pellet gun, and was attracted to the 40 grain weight of the CCI stuff. The Super Colibri 20 grain will pass through a soft pine 2X4 on the thinner dimension, and I assume the CCI 40 will do better but haven't done any informal testing yet. When you really want to be quiet, put away the air rifle and get these out.
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