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Old 01-11-2015, 10:21 PM
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I have a 9422 mainly this rifle shoots CLAS Rimfire events, i was previously using a Marlin 39A but i had modified for a different event so brought in the 9422. this little rifle is amazing,
half the weight and shorter barrel still only using origonal sights and is very competitive.
use bulk Federal ammo a lot ,for really accurate load use ICI Subsonic.
The action is positivly great, have never had a stoppage.
Re: Cleaning a Rimfire, there is a theory that rimfires never need cleaning,ammo is supposed to take care of it.Well i have seen plenty of evidence to the contrary. Recently looked at BRUNO. Immaculate exterior bore was tragic, never been cleaned.
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As far as cleaning rimfires go...better clean them..or the bore may/will lead-up with cheap non-plated bullet ammo. The actions will crud-up too..and then they don't work or will mis-feed. Even rimfires that shoot from a locked breech(bolt-guns..single-shots, pumps, levers, etc) get a lot of crud in the action

Winchester M9422 rifles?...I wish I owned one in .22LR...The only 9422 I own is a 9422M XTR. This a superb little rifle with more beans than a guy might think!
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I have a 9422 XTR and it is incredible. I wish I could see the front sight better because my old eyes won't do it. I can't bring myself to put a scope on it yet because I can't find one that suits me.
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Hi Troops thanks for comments. Have since found a Lyman 66 aperture sight that fitted easily. Improved the accuracy no end. Was a reluctant to put it on for the looks, However to keep up with the other shooters had to it.
only problem was for sight was a bit low, found a bamboo tooth pick ground a flat on one side and glued it to top of blade sight,
used a black marker pen for colour, you would not know the difference and works well.

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I am using a Skinner on mine, seems to work just fine for me.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:52 AM
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The build quality of the 9422 is right up at the top. The accuracy of a couple I had the chance to shoot of friends were decent but not great. They shot much better than the Browning 22 lever. The 22 Magnum was not nearly as good as the LR. I like capped fore arm levers like my 39A Marlin's better than banded ones as I don't think the cap upsets accuracy like the fore arm band can. I am not a Winchester guy but they build quality fire arms with excellent workmanship. Glad they made it through their shaky years and never went under. These old American gun companies are just some thing I don't want to see die. Long live the American fire arms industry.
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The build quality of the 9422 is right up at the top. The accuracy of a couple I had the chance to shoot of friends were decent but not great. They shot much better than the Browning 22 lever. The 22 Magnum was not nearly as good as the LR. I like capped fore arm levers like my 39A Marlin's better than banded ones as I don't think the cap upsets accuracy like the fore arm band can. I am not a Winchester guy but they build quality fire arms with excellent workmanship. Glad they made it through their shaky years and never went under. These old American gun companies are just some thing I don't want to see die. Long live the American fire arms industry.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Winchester folded their tent quite a while back. The branded name still exists but as an individual, original corporation, it's been long gone. Browning owns the name and they have both facilities under one roof. All Winchester firearms are outsourced for production. Miroku in Japan builds most, if not all, Winchester rifles. FWIW, Miroku is an outstanding firearms manufacturer. You can probably google Winchester to read the history of their demise. The employees owned it for a while but just couldn't make a go of it. Fortunately, the parent company of the name tries to offer a superior quality product and does a pretty good job of it.
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They must have for got to include the Model 70 when they folded their tent. I just wiped down all the guns at a friend of mine's LGS and the model 70's have made in USA right under the Winchester name on the action. As far as Miroku they build nice shot guns but their rifles I had shot like shot guns. I never saw a 9422 22 marked made in Japan either.
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Model 70s are currently made at the Browning plant in South Carolina and have gotten good reviews by a few forum members that have purchased them recently. FYI.... no idea about the 9422.
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They must have for got to include the Model 70 when they folded their tent. I just wiped down all the guns at a friend of mine's LGS and the model 70's have made in USA right under the Winchester name on the action. As far as Miroku they build nice shot guns but their rifles I had shot like shot guns. I never saw a 9422 22 marked made in Japan either.
Yep, under the Browning name. Not made at the Winchester factory now closed in Ct.

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On March 31, 2006, U.S. Repeating Arms closed the New Haven, Conn. plant where Winchester rifles and shotguns were produced for 140 years.[1] This resulted in hiatus of the production of the Winchester Model 70 rifle and Winchester Model 1300 pump action shotgun and the end of the Model 94 lever action rifle. Other Winchester models however, are still produced in other regions such as Asia and Europe.

On August 15, 2006, Olin Corporation, owner of the Winchester trademarks, announced that it had entered into a new license agreement with Browning to make Winchester brand rifles and shotguns, though not at the closed Winchester plant in New Haven. Browning, based in Morgan, Utah, and the former licensee, U.S. Repeating Arms Company, are both subsidiaries of FN Herstal.

In October 2007, FN Herstal announced that it would produce Controlled Round Feed Winchester Model 70 rifles at its facility in Columbia, South Carolina, where it currently manufactures the M240, M249, and M16 for the United States military, as well as its SPR and PBR lines, which are, in fact, variants of the modern Model 70 Controlled Round Feed rifles.

In 2013, FN/Browning relocated Model 70 assembly to Portugal.
A good read is the history of Winchester Repeating Arms which can also be found on Wikpedia.
Also, Browning only ever made around 600 single shot rifles and after that outsourced all manufacturing of guns. That was back around a hundred years ago. Here's a good link to the history of Browning Firearms. Another good bit of reading and knowledge about "American made firearms". They did outsource to some excellent manufacturers though. http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Manuf...20Company.html
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I have a Browning 1885 single-shot in 45-70. Made by Miroku in Japan. It is a very fine rifle. Quality is very good and accurate.

I don't remember where my Winchester 9422 was made, but it is also a fine piece of machinery.

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Old 07-16-2016, 06:43 PM
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I believe the Win 9422's are the genuine article, made before they went under.
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I bought one, 9422 Magnum, new in 1975 my youngest son has it now. Yes they are the real deal. I could fill a room with all the brass that rifle has fired and it shoots as wall to day as it did on the first trip to the field 40yrs ago.
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It so happens I had a pleasant experience with mine today. I have a WinTuff laminated stock 9422 in .22LR. I bought it used years ago with a RWS 4X Adjustable objective scope. The scope was kinda beat-up, missing the elevation turret cover screw, but I replaced it with a screw and washer and have kept using it that way. Works OK. The point being that this scope has "target turrets" which don't have covers on them. You just grab them and turn. At some point I decided to make some windage adjustment and just forgot there was no cover, grabbed the turret (to remove the cover...) and spun it a lot, not really paying attention. I did, by my guess about 3/4 of a turn. Anyhow, I had to re-zero the thing at 50 yards without a spotting scope to see my hits, and with a lot of people at the range, so it wasn't feasible to go down range every 5 shots or so. And, no, I couldn't see all that well with the 4X. Last 5 shots I fired at a quadrant of a shoot and see target that was hole free. Now, that group measured, when I got home, .600" . For me, with a 4X, shooting with elbows rested on a bench, but the gun in my hands, that was very exciting. Granted, it was only one group, but I decided to install a 10X-50 on the rifle to see what it will do next time I go to the range. I'll do my usual 4, 5-shot groups and average the results. If it does that well again, I'll install a 1-4X-20mm Leupold I have laying around. I'll report in a few weeks.

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Well, I went to the range today. Things didn't work out. That .600" group must have really been a fluke as I couldn't repeat it with the 10X50mm scope on the rifle. It still shot under 1", quite often around .750". But not .600".
Anyhow, the old RWS scope is back on it, I like the fact that it has an adjustable objective, the 4X Leupold is still on the shelf, waiting for a more worthy rifle, and the 10X Simmons is back as a spare/test scope. It REALLY is not very good, but has its uses.
On the other hand, I have some reactive targets, which flip over as you hit them. The strike area is 1.5" X 2" and, at 25 yards, standing, offhand, I hit that 10 times out of 10 with the 9422! With a CZ 455 bolt gun, Bipod, heavy barrel, 18X scope, sling, I can't hit it at all offhand! On the bench I can hit flies more often than not at 50 yards.
So, they each have their own charm. And I got to spend some time at the range today.

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The build quality of the 9422 is right up at the top. The accuracy of a couple I had the chance to shoot of friends were decent but not great. They shot much better than the Browning 22 lever. The 22 Magnum was not nearly as good as the LR. I like capped fore arm levers like my 39A Marlin's better than banded ones as I don't think the cap upsets accuracy like the fore arm band can. I am not a Winchester guy but they build quality fire arms with excellent workmanship. Glad they made it through their shaky years and never went under. These old American gun companies are just some thing I don't want to see die. Long live the American fire arms industry.
I have to disagree about the 9422 LR being better than the 9422M, BUT my 9422 was newer (still a non safety) & not an XTR. The 9422M XTR of mine, the action is like butter, MUCH SMOOTHER than the 9422 lr. Different dates of mfg, or just different examples??? Both are/were excellent, I kept the 9422M.
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I agree with nachogrande. I bought the 9422M-XTR a hundred years ago NIB and I thouroughly love to shoot it. very accurate and it's responsible for turning me into a 22M fan/addict. Been buying 22M rifles when I can...looking forward to putting my hands on the semi-auto Isralie arms has put out a few years back. Got the Ruger and It's good but painful to get the mag out without injuring my fingers....I'd like to shave some of the wood off the sides too but considering a Boyd fancy wood aftermarket if possible I had a Bushnell Sharpshooter 4x30 scope laying around and it fit the rails of the 9422M perfectly but I haven't made time to play with it yet. The rifle itself was made in New Haven Conn. More than one of my shootn buds purchased one after trying mine. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine. Keep er clean
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Just to clarify Browning and Browning Arms Co.

John M. Browning's dad had a gunshop in Ogden, UT. Young John, the oldest of several sons took over the business in the 1870s and invented the Single Shot rifle that became the Winchester 'High Wall' 1878. Browning then invented and sold to Winchester a large lever action that became the Model 1886 which made him the richest man in Utah. Of course the great line of Winchesters that came after is legion. John M. Browning was an inventor. Browning Arms Co. came into being after Winchester refused the A-5 so Browning went to Remington and finally FN in Belgium to have his designs made. Colt, Ithaca, Stevens, Remington all made Browning designed guns for commercial use and of course the long line of military machine guns from the 'tater digger' to the M-2 has defended this country through every war from WW-I to the present.

Browning Arms Co. Manufactured the Model 1878 Single shot but has imported everything since. First from FN in Belgium came the A-5, 1922 FN pocket pistol, .22 Trombone, P-35 pistols and Superposed shotguns. When labor cost got too high, they went to Japan and bought a company, re-built it bigger and started manufacturing some of the best guns going.
FN (and the bankers that owned them) bought up other gun companies in business move much like Freedom Group gathered, Remington, H&R, Bushmaster, Parker Repo and others.

To determine quality the gun HAS to be looked at very carefully. Brand names mean very, very little.

I highly recommend a thin book called "John M. Browning---America's Gun Maker". It shows the many prototype guns made for Winchester and others. Browning designed in his head and then made it in steel. The engineers measured his guns to make drawings.

Browning was THE top firearms designer in the world at a time the competition was REALLY fierce!
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My 9422 Win-Tuff XTR was apparently made in New Haven CT in 1972.

I have the book about John Browning, and it is definitely a good read.

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