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GPO rifle scopes

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I am looking for a scope for my 270w rifle. The GPO (German Precision Optics) scope have drawn my attention. What is the general opinion of their Precision 3-9x42 scopes vs Nikon Monarch or Leupold scopes. Price wise they are lower in price. I am wondering if the optics are comparable in clarity and light transmission. Thanks for your responses.
 
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The G.P.O. has slightly less clarity than the highly prized Meopta. I believe that there is not much difference in the G.P.O. as opposed to Leupold or Nikon. Precision is the entry level of G.P.O. Contact Doug at Cameraland in New York. Doug is highly knowledgeable and can provide a full analysis to your question.

* I bypassed G.P.O. as their parts are from a variety of countries with their final Q.C. in Germany (so they say). There is no "Made In" on the scope. The Precision line I believe comes with 5 extra turrets, 'a good deal', if you can trust G.P.O. I've researched G.P.O. for nearly six months and could not make a purchase, even after speaking with Doug. Doug even provided a substantial discount and I still did not purchase on the above points.
 
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* I bypassed G.P.O. as their parts are from a variety of countries with their final Q.C. in....... There is no "Made In" on the scope. .

If you like a company or the products they sell, that's fantastic!
If you don't fully and honestly understand their practices, don't fall into the "country" trap.

What do you think the "Made In _____" sticker honestly means, and do you think that's universal?

There is at least one "Made in USA" optics company, who simply buys a box of parts from L.O.W. and assembles them here.
Yet qualifies as "Made in USA". Much the same L.O.W. is a Japanese company, however.... They have factories in several different countries, and they have subsidiaries in even more countries.
Simply knowing someone buys parts from LOW, doesn't begin to tell you where things were actually made, much the same that "Made in USA" really only tells you the location of the company selling it to you.

There is a very highly revered German optical company who touts "Schott" glass. They moved the production of those lenses to China in the 80's.

If someone specifies junk, be upset with them. Not they people who agreed to produce the junk for them.


Cheers
 
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Here's my take on buying a scope: Buy one that is a quality product with a fantastic reputation for taking care of the customer if they ever have a problem with the scope. There are several that fit the bill. Is this one of them?
 
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Have you read one of my prior posts relating to Nikon? That is an intelligent assumption regarding 'quality' and the stipulations contained within the warranty. However, each scope brand (Company) provides a song and dance to entice those willing to buy the story. There are many as Darkker eludes to in his post.

* None are actually forthright, hiding the details while presenting the 'fluff'. Everyone loves words that can be enhanced to bring the subject (scope) into clear focus. Again, just publicity as to gather those unknowing.
 
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You have certainly done your homework here as I am not disputing any points you highlight, actually none. At least you are honest, whereby the majority believe in fairy tales or ghost stories. It is of no surprise that 'all' internal parts, including erector systems and glass are subcontracted to the Indo region of Asia, even Leupold. Leupold assembles the scopes in Oregon, thereby "Made in U.S.A.". This facet is well known to us. Meaning, 'Made-In'> 'Really means zilch, nothing', yet some believe that a better product is being made.

* The bottom line, all scopes basically have the same internal mass, although some may differ on the specifics of the erector system. The quality of the glass is namely of the coatings used as I have received an abundance of differing opinions regarding that issue. G.P.O. claims to have 'Double HD Glass'; 'Whatever that is'. The reality is that one pays for the (1) Name (2) Country of origin, irrespective of the parts. (3) Glass- Schott, as you make mention and 'everyone' seeks to have champagne taste in using beer money-"Does not work".
So in the end, you are absolutely correct with the numbers as referring to sales. We would believe, 'that's just the way it is'. Corporations are in business to increase their profits any way they can and to enable the masses with strings of diatribe in golden fashion.
 
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Two service reps stated "What difference does that make" > 'Relating to the code'? This, in effect shows little desire to assist the customer. Small items can turn into mountains.
I've got to side with them on that issue. Having worked at a couple of rather large manufacturing companies I've dealt with consumers who felt that they were entitled to any info they requested from the company. Some of it wasn't pertinent and some was actually proprietary. All info isn't public, they're buying the product, not the keys to the kingdom. Once in a while you just have to let one go.
 
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* All bar codes are to be made public according to the statutes contained within the U.S. Code, as well as with the F.T.C. No keys associated with information that should be readily available. They just decide to hide that information or not disclose it. If I contacted the F.T.C., they would surely respond. Really do not care to waste my time on triviality, "Just making a Point" > "About the facts".

Read: Barcodes and products, and, since it is an “open to the public” site, many times the barcode and product information can be inaccurate.

* The Open Product Data project is a comprehensive source for open barcode data. As of May 2014, they have close to a million products in their database. The data is accessible online, through an Android app (source code), and available for download under the Open Data Commons Open Database License (ODbL).
 
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@ Darkker

* Just realized you are the 'super moderator'. I believe that we may have had conversations in the past there may have been contentious. Is this correct? Makes no difference, just inquiring.
 
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