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Illinois requires a Magazine Keepers Certificate. After a Federal Explosives License from the BATF is obtained which takes about a year, then Illinois requires a certificate from Illinois Department of Natural Resorces. A magazine which meets ATF and DNR requirements will be inspected and a payment with application sent to the Il. DNR. After 6-12 months a yearly certificate should arrive. Problem is that the certificate normally expires before a renewal certificate arrives. It's no doubt intentional to prevent magazine owners from legally having or selling black powder. Total amount an individual can have is only 5 pounds without proper paperwork. This includes primers or percussion caps. As a class 29 FEL Dealer of Black Powder it is an uncertain situation to keep up with. It would be easy to be legal one day then get busted the next if certificates aren't reissued on time. It's just another form of gun control. If there isn't powder or ammo to shoot, then the gun is only a club.
 
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I looked into getting a Fed. Explosives license to take advantage of dealer prices on black powder. Got the paper work and I don't think it is worth the hassle and cost; especially when you can order case lots from distributors with only a drivers license. I told them I wouldn't be reselling the powder, it would be for my use only, but that didn't matter at all. Emery
 
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mazo kid said:
I looked into getting a Fed. Explosives license to take advantage of dealer prices on black powder. Got the paper work and I don't think it is worth the hassle and cost; especially when you can order case lots from distributors with only a drivers license. I told them I wouldn't be reselling the powder, it would be for my use only, but that didn't matter at all. Emery
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Anyone licensed to sell black powder must keep exact records of amounts sold and who bought it. If you purchased a 25 lb. case, your name is on file. Also the dealer could be busted for selling to an unlicensed individual, any amount over 5 lbs. If you have more than 5 lbs., you must have a FEL and a magazine that is approved and inspected by the ATF&E or you are taking a big risk. I have seen clubs that pool ID's from members to buy case lots also. That's refered as a " straw purchase". Not legal in anyone's book. Whoever should get caught in possesion could face serious problems. Magazines here are inspected yearly, along with records. The State or ATF&E can also make random house checks. So trying to sneak one past them isn't worth it.
 
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Mr. C said:
Anyone licensed to sell black powder must keep exact records of amounts sold and who bought it. If you purchased a 25 lb. case, your name is on file. Also the dealer could be busted for selling to an unlicensed individual, any amount over 5 lbs. If you have more than 5 lbs., you must have a FEL and a magazine that is approved and inspected by the ATF&E or you are taking a big risk. I have seen clubs that pool ID's from members to buy case lots also. That's refered as a " straw purchase". Not legal in anyone's book. Whoever should get caught in possesion could face serious problems. Magazines here are inspected yearly, along with records. The State or ATF&E can also make random house checks. So trying to sneak one past them isn't worth it.
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Bureaucracy is alive and well there it seems...5lbs is not much if a person shoots a lot...lucky here in North Carolina...no state over-rides to the BATF regs regarding the recreational use of black powder...ie: we can buy/own/store up to 50lbs in a single family dwelling, no licenses, no permits, no magazines, etc.
 
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