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Remington's new 783 bolt

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#1 ·
Well I have been reading how wonderful the new remington 783 is. The receiver looks more or less like the 770 which the looks off I am not too found of , but lets hear from some one who has had one in hand and shot it befor we compare it to the Marlin xr7and Ruger American:)
 
#2 ·
My dad has one and I like it pretty good. Trigger on his is almost as good as an accutrigger (I'd put it about par with an xl7 which I have). While it still doesn't feel like an expensive rifle by any stretch, it feels much more solid and quality than the 770, not even close. His shoots well, sub moa with 150 interlocks both handloaded and Hornady American Whitetail. The only complaint he has had was that from the factory, the metal latch on the back of the mag didn't hold the mag far enough up for consistent feeding, but 5 minutes spent changing the angle of the metal latch and now that problem is gone. One thing to note, remington suggests you use their 783 bases, or use two of the front 700 bases (or rear, I can't remember off top of my head) but instead of spending the money on their 783 bases or buying two sets of 700 bases, you can use bases designed for savages
 
#3 ·
Well glad to receive at least one reply thanks
Remington states it is their improved version of the xL7a rifle that I have used. I would like the Marlin more had it a clip and that the bolt would lock , since it has a habit of the bolt opening when your going through heavy bush.
I have read a lot of negative comments about this 783 rifle , but that is from people whom never shot one but do not like the looks of the thing.Well the Savage bolt action rifle was not a thing pretty when they first came out, and I never heard a dead deer ***** they bought it from an ugly gun.I had a sako with a real fancy stock and was always afraid to put a mark on it in the bush,and at times would not go through the elders for that reason.Later I started using an older 336 marlin lever and it was a joy to hunt with If I marked the stock a bit of oil rubbed into the stock fixed it Started putting deer in the freezer then every year.
If the remington 783 thing shoots groups and does not fall apart is really what I am interested in.
 
#7 ·
Interesting. I can remember not all that long ago, Savage usually wasn't even mentioned in the same breath with Remington. Not so today. Either Savage has greatly improved or Remington has gone so far after the price market that they've slipped, badly.
My grandson has a Savage with the Accu trigger, in .308. The caliber was my only suggestion. Savage part was mostly bought on the great trigger. Glad to see people finally paying attention to a rifles trigger. IMHO, the most over-looked, but in actuality, most important interface between shooter and weapon. Good trigger on mediocre weapon= a better shot. Crappy trigger on an otherwise excellent weapon= poorer shot, every time. A good trigger can make a good shooter better,and a poor shooter into a better shooter. Inverse can be said of a crappy trigger. Triggers make more difference than all the other bells and whistles combined to the field shooter. SO, kudos to Savage, hope everyone else in the rifle making business follows suit.
But, in response to the OP, I haven't shot one, so I can't say squat about how good or bad the Remington is. All the Remingtons I own and shoot are well over 30 years old. Still shooting well, but many things have changed in that long.
 
#8 ·
Rem 783

I have one it,s a 270 and I like it . It shoots well, has clip mag, I have only shot it at 75 yds its broke in and ill be taking it to the 100 to 300 yard range soon. so far I think it will work out ok. Good trigger , stock holding up ok . I would like to know if the barrel is the same as the savage , like if we could use a 10 or 110 . target. waiting for the 243
 
#9 ·
I have a 783 in 30-06 I bought last year for $350ish. After cleaning, the first 3 rounds of Hornady American Whitetail were just under an inch at 100yds. My handloads shoot the same or a little better if I can hold it still. I had the same problem with the magazine as another poster. I contacted remington, and they said they were sendint me another one ,,,,but they were on backorder. I bought one off ebay, they were available at several locations(except rem store). After several months, and promises of an extra mag to make up for the wait, I gave up on remington. I like the rifle. After an accident(that I won't go into) damaged the muzzle, I shortened the barrel to 18", and re-crowned it.
It still shoots sub moa, and it is lighter, and easier to handle, and makes a great "truck gun". I don't normally buy a rifle for it's "looks". I buy for the fit, feel, and how well it shoots. I bought a nikon coyote special (on sale) mounted it, and have a scoped rifle I really like for under $500.
Never did get the original mag to work right every time. I bent the tab, filed, shimmed, and whatever I could think of. The new one has failed to pick up the first round a time or two. Have to remember to "slap" the mag in, and it's OK 99% of the time. As for "Remington" corporate, they'll have to improve their operation a whole lot before I buy from them again. It's a real shame, another of our stellar AMERICAN companies going down the drain.

P.S. I bought a Ruger American '06, and am happy with it(sub moa) as well.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Hello:
Id go with a savage also.
Remington has been a pita for me lately.
The savage rifle has been qoated by many as a accurate shooter from the box.
I myself would be willing to stand by savage as accurate from the box as it has for me.
Remington in the last 6 to 8 years has imported zastava rifles with the remington logo on it and here in the usa you cant get repair parts .
Try calling remington for parts on there model 799 in 22 hornet or 7.62x39 and wait for the reply of we dont have or supply parts but call century arms at 1-800-527-1252 they are the current importer and you can get parts through them since the rem799 is the exact same rifle as the zastava m85.
Ok so i call century only to be told by century we got guns but no parts.
Call back in 6 months we are working on getting parts from zastava serbia.
Ok call back in 6 months nope no parts but paper work submitted for getting parts has been submitted and have been waiting for aproval for long time.
You got it call back end of the year which i did and still no parts.
I dont know if the parts will ever be available here in the usa from the importer and after 1 1/2 years i started looking off shore for a distributor to buy the parts.
Did get a hold of one that seems interested in sending me parts but that he has had no luck getting parts himself and he states hes 300km from the factory.
But he did say he added the parts to his order and would be in touch and he has been in touch .
Well i also had a member here on the bd contact me saying he would check into it since he lives over there and its really looking like hes my best bet and im thrilled hes took it upon himself to help me.
And yeah if both come thruogh on the parts im buying both because ill qarratte you that here in the usa these parts wont be extras for long if i got an extra order.
I have googled and searched my computer too death and trust me you can find many looking for the parts so they wont go wasted if i feel im overstocked on the extra parts .
And i dont believe ill feel overstocked by having the parts.
Seems many non usa distributors have access to the parts but are not interested in shipping small orders to the USA and thats been my situation .
Like ive said its been next to impossible to get parts here in the usa for zastava rifles which the rem 799 is a zastava.
So if your in the USA id strongly advise checking into if you can get the parts if you need any and im including the extra clip magazine too.
Again my hats off to this member here thats helping me and i do thank him for putting in the time for me to do it.
My boys sure going to be happy when i get it fixed for prarie doggin that i do know.
However i think im goona be real thrilled to watching him shoot the rem 799 22 hornet again myself. :)
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#12 ·
I do not understand why any one would buy a new model 783 rifle,when you can have a well made used model 700 for about the same price and have no problems with looks,function,and accuracy of a used model 700 rifle? I for one have not bought a new rifle since 2002,and do not plan to in the future.There are way to many wonderful made used rifles on the market with alot better quality then today,s synthetic made piece,s of junk.The prices are reasonable an the rifles were way better made.at 59 years of age,I find that quality is in the older made rifles of yesterday,and I own quite a few.2 model 722 remington,s (300sav.and 244Rem.)2 model 700 rifles made in the late 70,s(270Win,and 30-06)a Newer model 700(in 35 whelen)and a pre 64 Winchester model 70 in 270Win.I also own a Remington model 788 in 308win(made in 1970).All are accurate as **** and fit and function wonderfully.I hand load for them all.These are just my thoughts on the subject.Good luck.
 
#14 · (Edited)
Hello:
I also agree 100 percent with bigjershooter.
His post was and is exactly my thoughts too.
When remington gets there head out of there @#$%$# ill consider them again but for now not even an option.
Remington doesnt even support parts for there rem models 798 or 799 and they sold them here in the usa to us from zastava serbia.
If remington doesnt care enough to supply parts when the guns were new then why should i care to support remington ?
They obviously didnt care about supporting parts to the customer so rem can take it in the shorts as i have with there model 799.
Remington needs to get back in the saddle and start once again producing a good gun to be a qaulity offer like they used to do in the 80s .
If remington would come out with a rem 7400 semi auto in .223 cal and build it with the qaulity in the past theyd see one heck of a market in my opinion
for those of us that want a semi auto in the glossy bdl wood type finish .
Im not much on the black gun myself and many feel the same too i read.
Ive had a couple of real butt burners from rems offerings and im just not into a 3rd screw me from them.
Oh boy i gotta go take a chill pill .
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#15 ·
I had a Remington Model 788 in 7mm 08 that shot under an inch at 100 and within 2 inches at 200 from a rest. I have not had a gun before or since that was as accurate. (162 grain match boat tail hollow points) The reason I no longer have it is that if you pulled the bolt back too quickly the stamped metal clips would pop the cartridges into the chamber before the empty left the breech. Since it was the only gun I had to hunt with that was a big issue. My gunsmith and I never could solve that problem and lack of patience led me to trade it off. Regretted it ever since.
 
#16 ·
;)Thanks for your support Gil Martin,and Headshot.I am very glad to know that there are many shooters that feel the way that I do.My last rifle new was the 35 Whelen in a model 700 in 2002.Model CDL,that I removed all the bottom metal to and replaced with stainless,I also bought a laminated stock from Remington,s supplier and bedded the action to that stock.Fitted a Ziess Conquest 3x9x40mm scope to her.I shoot a handload of 250gr Speer grand slam,in Winchester Brass,with 56grs of IMR-4320 powder.It shoots great groups and really plows the deer here in upper Michigan.No meat damage,and you can eat right up to the hole.They do not run after being hit square in the shoulder.Down and done!
 
#18 · (Edited)
Hello Harry Snippe:
Point taken - Qeuss we did get off track.
My apologies wasnt meant to derail the original qeustion.
I believe enough of us have mentioned the remington co not making what they used to as for qaulity and reliability and parts not available for some of there more recent rifles and have even heard service from rem has suffered .
In all honesty the rem 783 is new enough that many probably dont have much experience with the 783 as of this time.
Id think that its mostly up to you on whether you like it for its fit and shooting and feel ect.
Many of us are speaking of past experiences with rems and not the 783 as we have no other way to say except from past and present with rems in general and thats unfortunate .
I will add this as a visual only on the 783 since i dont have one myself.
It does use remingtons super cell rubber butt plate pad and after a few years the ones with that rubber super cell pad have turned sorta sticky and the butt pad sticks to the gun safes carpeting and sticks on my shoulder.
I did order a new one and put it on which so far has been fine after 1 yr to date.
I dont oil or clean the butt pads with any oils or solvents so not sure why the pads did this.
Time will tell if it was just a coincidence on this.
Im not a fan of the black composite stock but i will admit moisture strength ect its better than wood in bad weather by far so that will be a plus.
The 783 sorta looked like it was going to looking like the browning a bolts apperance but more towards the star wars space age look and its most likely not hurting its shooting ability and again im just like the wood stocks.
I myself believe that if you pick one up handle it ect that your gut feeling will be the answer.
The one big factor is that even though many disapprove of rem on some guns is that remington for the most part does still seem to shoot well.
And with them still being acceptable shooters as a whole you will still put meat in the freezer.
Its a good thing we as individuals do have different tastes ect cuz we cant all have the same girl same applies to guns .
Now im respectfully laughing with you not at you.
Go with your gut feeling because we dont know the real answer for sure but you will.
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#19 · (Edited)
Head shot
Thank you for your reply
I think if we got into Remingtons past we would really stir the pot. There are many that will not believe Remington could ever do wrong while others know there have been problems for years.

Well known was the problem with triggers which was caused somewhat by the owners , but not all.Now there is a new recall on triggers .Then some new guns will not shoot groups with the stocks the way they are .
I did not want to get into remington bashing
It has been also stated that you can buy a new 700 for about 400 American so why would anyone even look at a cheaper model . Well here to the North in Canada I would be tickled if they offered the same gun used for $ 400.00.

To me how the gun handles and feels is indeed a big factor before I would buy it , but after buying the gun one finds the guns short comings and then try and get your money back.So you inquire how another Person found the rifle to shoot as far as groups were concerned and how the magazine worked etc.
Then we do not want to hear how well a Savage may shoot. which becomes a burr under one's saddle.
I have bought a few Marlins, brownings, remingtons,winchesters too that were sold at a loss
But if a problem were to be corrected I just might give the brand another chance .
I am looking for a what is referred to as a truck gun , not something with great looks

I have a cheap 12 gauge 870 remington shot gun that started to rust first day in the duck blind and it was an easy fix to use some gun blue on the gun.How the gun shoots, and performs other wise "great".

As for rifles,I like my Tikka T3 That has been used for years and years with out any problems.

So other than the looks would the 783 make the grade as a reliable shooter a cut above the Marlin xr7?

Well with the response given it might have a problem with the Mag, And then looking at the matt finish, might too rust the first wet day out LOL.
 
#20 ·
Hello Harry Snippe
Im going to throw out sime things to think on about whether the rem 783 would shoot or not and my thinking.
With all the various levels of abilties of us shooters theres really no way to say if its good so so or bullseye shooter.
We have experienced and not so experienced reloaders and you can most likely take the rem 783 amd with good reloads make that rifle shoot the eye out of an ant at 300 yds.
YUP ANTS HAVE EYES + I KNOW I LOOKED :D
Then again you can take the rem 783 and reloads wont shoot to the same pt of impact because the gun doesnt like that load and cant hit the south end of a bear going north at 100 yards but will love another loading and the **** splatters.
YUP BEARS GOT BUTTS = I SEEN EM IN THE HUNTIN MAGAZINES :)
To say the rem 783 wont shoot well - umm i wouldnt care to say that as its still based off the 700 action for the most part and that action has been toted as the one to get for an action to start with for an accurate rifle by more than one gun smith ive talked to.
To put it into perspective if i hadnt been burned by rem on the 3 guns ive got and had issues with and they left me out in the cold with there problem they sold to me id still look at the 783 as a potential shooter .
If you like the apperance and feel of the 783 then i truly believe you will be happy with it .
I have done a short search on the 783 for issues and there wasnt a lot really posted that i found other than a couple posts on the clip feed issue.
But it looks like it was a random problem with a very few and not wide spread in my opinion.
So with the amount of 783 rifles made a couple out of thousands got a complaint but thats to be expected and i also read they got the feed problem corrected by themselves and that one case above rem didnt stand behind the replacement they promised but the person i understand bought one of the clips i believe off of ebay and problem solved.
So worst i have read is an occasional box clip feeds badly but replace or bend the follower and alls good to go.
Worst case at this point would be you might have the clip feed prob but bend or replace clip and troubles solved im reading.
Now thats not a real bun burner if the only thing was a clip = ITS A WIN IN MY BOOK.
My end thoughts are the 783 shoots well enough and would make a good choice as a truck gun.
But i wish it was the wood bdl glossy stock- Sorry just my preference.
But dont get me wrong cuz if we two are in the back country and my Savage jams and your rem 783 gets dropped in the heat of the moment and that griz is fixin to eat one of us and i cant out run you I WILL PICK UP YOUR REMMY 783 AND SHOOT THAT GRIZ IN THE HEAD AND SAVE YOU - WELL ACTUALY ME BUT YOU GET IN ON THE FREE BENEFITS :D
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#21 ·
My honest opinion would be there really isn't enough info out there yet on the 783 since this is it's first year of availability. I would imagine there will be some that would shoot and function fine, but, there also could be a lot of bugs to work out with them. The Savage Axis/Axis II have been in production for a while now and being only $15-$20 difference I would go with that, the Axis II. With the Accutrigger on them now they really are a good deal IMO. The Axis II has a scope also, not the best maybe, not the worst either, but will do until until you can get another one.
 
#22 ·
If you took a minute to read part of this thread , you might gather I have no interest at all in Savage long guns at all .The ruger American was not on the market very long before people started reports on how they liked and disliked the rifle

I was inquiring only about the Remington 783only.
 
#23 · (Edited)
Hello Harry Snippe:
I believe you already answered your very own question in your first posting #1
You stated you didnt personaly like the 783 since it looked like the 770 receiver.
Fred243 was only trying to voice his opinion as hopefully helping you with an answer.
In your post #19 you give two more reasons why you didnt like the 783.
Thats 3 reasons now you dont like the 783.
Isnt three strikes your out ?
Go buy one and find out for yourself.
You took offense above on me too a few posts back and i just figured you had a bad day so i apologized and put a little humor with it to try to ease up the tension.
Fred243 didnt deserve that reply and i now think your correct.
Maybe the mods should close the thread as you requested earlier in post #17 since its pretty much run its course.
You state you dont like it in post #1 and post #19 but yet wont give up so id say go buy it and find out.
Were not here to convince you to buy something you have already given 3 reasons you dont like it.
I myself wouldnt give you anymore advice and hope others do the same with the rudeness your projecting.
But thats me .
Good Luck - Ill not be responding any further on this in respect of the forum.
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#24 ·
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I do not mean to offend any one
Go back and read # 4,5.6,10,11,12,and 21.

I thought no one had anything to add to this web, other than to buy a Savage to which there was no interest What are you guys going ?

So I asked if we could go back to the 873, but NO we got to talk about every thing else which is off topic.
I thank the guys that could give me some information .
So bye
 
#26 · (Edited)
The stocks on the below 400.00 dollar guns look like a weather beaten fence post . the factory trigger is a two finger job to pull. The bolt lift to cock the thing you need to drop the gun and hammer it with the palm of your hand. Yup there is a kit to fix that .
I think the main attraction is you can run home and change out the parts with aftermarket parts, so you can say you made your own custom gun Well maybe then it shoots now just dandy .
I like to scope the gun and then use it straight out of the box after site in .
Save the money and make a payment on a new Ford truck That is money well spent my friend
 
#27 ·
I've not been around the 783 enough to form a good opinion yet.

In general, I stay away from first year production guns. The factory knows how guns are supposed to be used and design the guns accordingly. But once the public gets ahold of it and mistreats it then the factory makes changes. It's these changes that make first year guns a problem, as new parts don't work on the old guns. In addition, your local gunsmith probably won't be able to get any parts as the factory wants all guns returned for repair, and they get to see what happens to it in the field.
 
#28 ·
Good point Mainspring .

This is usual to any gun design that is new as well as the new model car or truck you may have bought Some times though the design flys through with full colours and we then ask any one using the said product what they think .

Being an old part one is slow to try anything new and tend to keep our shirts the same colour and were them for fifteen years if we could.Well **** why did we need something new ? We had a good car in the Model T?

I am content after shooting and hunting for forty years now. Shooting my tikka, may never buy another firearm Never know I might set it down some where and forget , then need to buy something a bit cheaper on the way home.:)