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Winchester Model 50 bolt JAMMED

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#1 ·
New to the forum, thank you in advance for any help.

I recently inherited my grandfather's shotgun, a Winchester Model 50 semi-auto. Took it out for the dove opener the other day and after about 15 rounds (2 3/4" dove load) the gun jammed.

The bolt is stuck in the rearward position, and the trigger is stuck in the depressed position. I tried to field strip it but no matter what I do I cannot release the bolt. When I push the bolt rearward with my finger it goes about 1/8" farther back, and it rocks up/down a bit, that's it. The bolt release side button is locked up as well.

I found an online copy of an owner's manual for the Model 59, which looks very similar. Before I try to take out the recoil spring (which is accessed via the stock butt), and/or try to remove the trigger group, I wanted to solicit a little advice. I also thought I should just leave it in the current condition and take it to a gunsmith, but the nearest one is quite a drive...and just maybe I can fix it myself.

From what I have read online the most common failure is the bolt becoming stuck in the forward position, not the rearward like mine. Apparently the recoil spring can wear out and needs periodic replacement, so I am thinking that maybe the weakened spring somehow allowed the bolt to go too far back and maybe damaged the trigger assembly??? I also read online that after tweaking the recoil spring tension setting you need to "time" the action. Not sure how to do that.

This gun has a lot of sentimental value and I really hope to salvage it, hoping someone out there is familiar with this problem. Any help much appreciated.

Thanks!

Kris
 
#2 ·
I would take it apart carefully and likely you will find what the problem is. The spring changers guild always recommends replacing springs, but unless one is rusty or mangled I have yet to replace one. If you get a defective coil spring, it will not look uniform. It does happen. Maybe there have also been some that just collapsed as well, but I have yet to see one. Modern coil springs do not wear out from sitting, compressed or not, but only by repeated cycling over many, many thousands of cycles. That is why coil springs have an advantage over leaf springs. I have seen more "sure cycle" kits mess up a gun than fix one. I would remove the recoil spring first so you aren't dealing with parts under spring tension. I used to work on a lot of guns. I never called myself a gunsmith because I have zero artistic ability, and wood hates me, but I was more than a fair hand as a gun mechanic. The owner's manual is usually your friend. All the people who talk about tweaking springs are not. Long recoil actions do need the components set up correctly for the loads you are shooting in some designs. As I recall the Model 50 was a short recoil/floating chamber design. A real simple action really, but the chamber was subject to fouling issues with the old shells as I recall. There was a good description on Wikipedia as I recall also. Do not force anything. Guns were not mean't to be disassembled with hammers until you get down to drift pins. Whatever is wrong, forcing things will only make it worse.
I believe the 50 and 59 were the same except for the fiberglass barrel on the 59. This may help.
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