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My wish list isn't very long. Let's see: 1860 Henry; 1866 Yellowboy; '73 Win; '74 Shiloh Sharps; maybe a '76 Win. Of course, I could add a Brown Bess, and maybe a Charleville, and possibly some Kentuckies in a few different calibers. Oh yeah, I've really got to have an '03 Harper's Ferry (1803) and a '58 Springfield. Well, I probably should add another '03 Springfield (1903), and a Garand too. Actually, I'd kind of like to have a 204 Ruger, and maybe a 257 Weatherby Mag too. Uh, and a 300 RUM. Oh, and a 50 BMG...


P.S. Where's my head? I almost forgot handguns: a Walker, a couple more Dragoons, 1860 Army, 1872 Open top, actual Colt SAA, a LeMat; well, I don't have a Nazi marked P-38 either. Didn't someone make a limited run of Spencer carbines and the Ferguson flintlocks awhile back? I'd like those too. Also, a Trapdoor Springfield, and probably a Krag, and a nice Nazi marker k98 Mauser with all matching numbers. Oh, and a S&W Mountain Gun in 41 Mag... and a S&W 500 with 4" barrel. I think that's it.

Sorry. I forgot this is the Blackpowder Forum... I'll go away now.


P.P.S. Also, a 6.5x54mm Mannlicher Schonauer full-stock carbine like Al Miller reviewed in the September issue of Rifle magazine. I've wanted one of those ever since I was a kid. Now, that's it. I'm really out of here...
 
Yep, love my henry, only took about 15 years of lusting after one to get it. I kind of wish that I'd have gotten the iron frame, but that's just looks wise, still like the brass frame too.

I haven't tried anything beyond 200 meters at a 1000 yard range. Been a while since I took it out of the safe, might have trouble hitting the 200 meter steels rite now!

A side shot at 50-60 yards with a pure lead bullet generaly drops them pretty quik, if not in there tracks just a few feet down the trail. So far have't had to trail any, but then I'm real careful of my shot placement, and that 45 is pretty effective at close range.
 
I can't answer your question, but I once fired an eight inch group at 300 yards for six shots using my Ruger Blackhawk and a heavy dose of Blue Dot under 250 grain SWC's at an old yellow highway sign to see if they would penetrate the heavy metal of the sign, which they did quite handilly. I held the whole front sight level with the top edge of the rear and the bullets struck only about a foot low. hows that for establishing my Maximum Range?
 
Firing smokeless handloads with Bullseye powder and 255-260-grain bullets of traditional profile, the velocity of blackpowder loads is closely approximated with 6.5 grains of Bullseye, which produces about 900 fps from a 5-1/2" revolver and about 1050 fps from a 20" barreled carbine.

Accurate Molds: Custom Bullet Molds

Solving for an optimum "Combat Trajectory" in which an iron sighted carbine is zeroed at about 110 yards so as not to shoot over a man's head with a chin hold at 50 yards, having a maximum 5" bullet rise.

The carbine generates about the same kinetic energy at its maximum point blank range of 130 yards that the revolver does at the muzzle. At 250 yards remaining energy equals that of the M1911 pistol which replaced it, firing service ammunition at the muzzle. Trajectory drops 5" below line of sight at about 130 yards, and the remaining energy at 250 yards is still 365 foot-pounds, requiring about 6 feet of holdover:

The .45 Colt revolver is still a serious handgun by any standard. With modern brass and smokeless powder a matching carbine of the same caliber is a viable choice.

.45 Colt 20” Carbine, 255gr LFN, 6.5 grains Bullseye, Optimum Combat Trajectory for Maximum 5” Bullet Rise
Yds.__Drop(ins)__Vel.__Energy_FltTime (milliseconds)

0 -0.9678 1080 660 1
10 0.8109 1061 637 29
20 2.2806 1043 616 57
30 3.4308 1027 597 86
40 4.2511 1011 579 116
50 4.7314 997 563 146
60 4.8617 983 547 176
70 4.6321 970 533 207
80 4.0330 958 520 238
90 3.0548 946 507 270
100 1.6881 935 495 301
110 -0.0767 924 483 334
120 -2.2487 914 473 366
130 -4.8373 903 462 399
140 -7.8518 894 452 433
150 -11.3015 884 442 467
160 -15.1957 875 433 501
170 -19.5436 866 425 535
180 -24.3546 858 417 570
190 -29.6380 849 408 605
200 -35.4032 841 400 641
210 -41.6596 833 393 676
220 -48.4167 825 385 713
230 -55.6841 818 379 749
240 -63.4713 810 371 786
250 -71.7881 803 365 823
 
The OP you quoted, is very clearly banned; and asked his question in 2004......

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